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  • Top 10 Players on the Pack

    According to ESPN's Scouts.inc:

    1. DE Aaron Kampman (Grade 86)

    He is a three-down player who aligns inside and outside in pass-rush situations. He is a blue-collar type who plays with an outstanding motor. He can be very disruptive when attacking upfield gaps.

    2. CB Charles Woodson (81)

    He's a competitive player with toughness. He has fluid hips and quick feet that make him smooth in transition. He is more natural from a press than from an off position and has good man-to-man cover skills. He relies on his instincts and can be aggressive at times when jumping routes.

    3. LB Nick Barnett (79)

    He is the quarterback of the Packers' defense. He is a smart, instinctive player with good athletic skills. Barnett is a solid three-down linebacker who continues to take his game to another level.

    4. LB AJ Hawk (78)

    He has a solid combination of size, speed and athletic skills for the position. He's an assignment-sure linebacker and is as reliable a tackler as there is. He is also a productive player with good range in coverage.

    5. WR Greg Jennings (78)

    He is a versatile player who can align in multiple spots in the Packers' spread offense. Jennings is a very productive player with enough size to be a big-time threat in the red zone.

    6 WR Donald Driver (76)
    7 OT Chad Clifton (75)
    8 CB Al Harris (74)
    9 DE Cullen Jenkins (71)
    10 RB Ryan Grant (68)

    I can't see Jenkins ahead of Grant, Ryan Pickett (67) and Mark Tauscher (65). Aaron Rodgers got the 13th highest rating (66).
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

  • #2
    How do the rankings go... Is it out of 100???

    If so , ESPN is full of crap. This team did make it to the NFC Championship game last year.

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    • #3
      If this is based on last year--not projected for this year, Grant has to be #1.

      I have a lot of respect for Kampman, but Barnett is a better player. I also would find a place in the top ten for Bigby, and I would still rate Driver at least equal with Jennings.

      Jenkins has potential, but he's nowhere near top ten material based on last year or past performance in general.

      If they are projecting to this season, that really makes it subjective. Grant still has to be #1, though, with Rodgers way up there too.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • #4
        Grant has only played in 10 pro games in his entire life!

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        • #5
          I'm with Tex on this one. Grant is the best player on the team.

          But I'd rate Woodson and Kampman pretty close.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
            Grant has only played in 10 pro games in his entire life!

            AP's played ~14?

            I know what I saw.

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            • #7
              Here's some context to put the numbers in perspective. They consider rankings in the 90's to be 'elite', 80's 'outstanding', and 70's a solid starter.

              Vikes top 5:

              1. Kevin Williams Defensive tackle (Rating 92)

              2. Steve Hutchinson Left guard (91)

              3. Jared Allen Defensive end (89)

              4. Adrian Peterson Running back (89)

              5. Pat Williams Defensive tackle (86)

              Lions top 5:

              1. Roy Williams Wide receiver (Grade 79)

              2. Cory Redding Defensive tackle (78)

              3. Ernie Sims Linebacker (77)

              4. Leigh Bodden Cornerback (75)

              5. Calvin Johnson Wide receiver (75)

              Bears top 5:

              1. Tommie Harris Defensive tackle (Grade 88)

              2. Brian Urlacher Linebacker (86)

              3. Lance Briggs Linebacker (82)

              4. Devin Hester Kick returner (82)

              5. Olin Kreutz Center (77)

              I can't argue too much with any of it. It would be interesting to follow the numbers all the way down the roster. While Green Bay might have fewer upper echelon guys, I would think the entire starting lineup and many of the backups should be in the solid starter category. No one else in the division can match that depth. Add in that nobody else in the division should have a QB that scores over 70 (and the Bears might not break 60). I'd also take our coaching staff over any other in the division by a wide margin.
              #14

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              • #8
                Scale

                100-90 - Elite Player
                89-80 - Outstanding Player
                79-75 - Solid Starter
                74-70 - Good Starter
                69-65 - Adequate Starter
                64-60 - Good Backup
                Kind of strange. I think they might have mixed up Solid Starter and Good Starter. Good starter seems like it should be higher than Solid Starter.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • #9
                  There are so many flaws it's not even funny. Junius Coston is rated 65--the same as KGB and Mark Tauscher. Atari Bigby is rated below Nick Collins... and Colin Cole. Brady Poppinga is rated significantly lower than Brandon Chillar.

                  Ryan Grant is ranked as the 29th best RB.
                  Donald Lee is ranked as the 43rd best TE.
                  Mark Tauscher is ranked as the 43rd best OT.
                  Ryan Pickett is ranked as the 25th best DT. Johnny Jolly is 60th.
                  Al Harris is ranked as the 22nd best CB.

                  Mike McCarthy must be one hell of a coach. Either that or Brett was truly a one man team.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #10
                    I think that all Rodgers needs is playing time before he's at or near the top of that list..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Mike McCarthy must be one hell of a coach. Either that or Brett was truly a one man team.
                      I think the rankings are faulty, but I also think that McCarthy IS a helluva coach..The notion that Brett was the only reason for the team's turnaround is absolutely ridiculous, although there are people out there who actually think that..

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                      • #12
                        Bears top 5:

                        1. Tommie Harris Defensive tackle (Grade 88)

                        2. Brian Urlacher Linebacker (86)

                        3. Lance Briggs Linebacker (82)

                        4. Devin Hester Kick returner (82)

                        5. Olin Kreutz Center (77)


                        What?! Rex Grossman did not make the top 5 for the Bears? That rating system is out of whack.

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                        • #13
                          have to lol at this sort of a list. Almost as bad as draft projections! (not as bad, they do have something to go on)

                          So, the Vikes top five players (4 of which were on the team last year) are all rated higher or the same as our top player. Who went to the playoffs?

                          Boy, the secret squirrel sure did screw up big time last year. That, or this is one of those 'total is greater than the sum of the parts' things I keep hearing about.
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                          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                          • #14
                            BSPN = nuff said

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                            • #15
                              I think our kicker is pretty damn good. But I guess they don't count.

                              Grant at #10?? He should be like #2....behind Driver.

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