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    Grant

    I just do not understand all the love for Grant. In fantasy football or real football. This guy is not a savior, though I hope I am wrong, and has only played 10 games in the NFL on a team that sets up the run through the pass when #4 was here. Now he is going to have to do it behind a patchwork line and a Rookie under center, dont get mad I still think Automatic Rodgers is going to be good.

    I love the fact that he can shed tackles and makes the one cut and goes that is how this running game is supposed to be, however I dont think he is even in the top 10 in the NFL as a RB. I also remember him getting caught from behind a lot on long runs, though I did love the long runs, he isnt a burner that is for sure.

    What do you all think? I mean for a 6th round pick that we sent it was a GREAT return on value but now what does everyone think he will do this year?
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    I think it depends on how Rodgers fares this season. If Rodgers struggles, teams will stack the box and Grant won't find many easy yards. If Rodgers catches fire, defenses will be forced to play more honest and drop more into coverage. If that happens, I don't see Grant being any less productive than he was last season. His vision and burst are still there, unless I've missed something. He should have no problem with a 5 or 6 man front. It's 8 in the box that could ruin his season. It's up to Rodgers to see that he doesn't have to deal with one very often.
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    • #3
      Re: Grant

      Originally posted by Tony Oday
      I also remember him getting caught from behind a lot on long runs
      I don't remember him getting caught from behind much at all. There were times that a defender had the proper angle on him...but more often than not he took his big gainers to the house last year.
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      • #4
        Re: Grant

        Originally posted by The Leaper
        I don't remember him getting caught from behind much at all. There were times that a defender had the proper angle on him...but more often than not he took his big gainers to the house last year.
        Agreed. He has good speed. He ran a 40 in the mid-4.4s coming up. That's good--especially for a bigger RB.
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        • #5
          Re: Grant

          Originally posted by The Leaper
          Originally posted by Tony Oday
          I also remember him getting caught from behind a lot on long runs
          I don't remember him getting caught from behind much at all. There were times that a defender had the proper angle on him...but more often than not he took his big gainers to the house last year.
          Those happened as he was hitting the hole, because a tackle or TE missed a backside block more often than not.

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          • #6
            Honestly most of the times I 'remember' him getting caught could have been just great angles...I do like his burst but everyone seems to be lumping him in with the second tier good backs in the NFL and I just don't see that after 10 games. I mean AP is a great back that will have trouble with injuries because of Jump Pass and the passing game in MN but he 'seemed' like a good, with great potential as a RB, where as Grant reminded me a lot of a Denver RB, nothing that special but gets 1200 yards a year.
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            • #7
              I'll take an "unspecial" 1200 yards over a spectacular 700 yards.
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              • #8
                If Ryan Grant stays healthy, he'll be in the 1000-1200 yard range easily. The kids the real deal, barring unforeseen circumstances, he's going to produce.
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                • #9
                  Tony,

                  He's big and fast. He's experienced and plays with fire. Guy's got shake, knows when to cut, and has the offense down cold. What else do you want in a back?

                  This wasn't your swiftest post.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KYPack
                    Tony,

                    He's big and fast. He's experienced and plays with fire. Guy's got shake, knows when to cut, and has the offense down cold. What else do you want in a back?

                    This wasn't your swiftest post.
                    Whoa I agree he is a big kid, liked him when I saw him run over a LB playing for the Giants, with a burst and one cut I get that, I just don't understand how the bandwagon got loaded up so fast.

                    I may have not worded this correctly I just dont see him as a top 10 back yet. If he runs 1200 yards with 7-10 TDs well heck there isnt anything you could want more! What are the odds that he is going to do crack that this year?

                    Again I think he is good however I just don't see how the kool-aid got passed around this much. Heck Jennings doesnt get this much love
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tony Oday
                      Whoa I agree he is a big kid, liked him when I saw him run over a LB playing for the Giants, with a burst and one cut I get that, I just don't understand how the bandwagon got loaded up so fast.
                      He led the conference in rushing once he took over the starting job. That will get a bandwagon loaded up fast.
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                      • #12
                        I've said consistently, Ryan Grant is a unique special talent, no less than the 3rd best RB in the NFL behind Peterson and Tomlinson (in that order).

                        The ONLY possible knock on him anybody could rationally have is that 2/3 or so of a season is not enough to prove how good he is. Fine, if you think that, I'll make it a prediction rather than a proven fact.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                          I've said consistently, Ryan Grant is a unique special talent, no less than the 3rd best RB in the NFL behind Peterson and Tomlinson (in that order).

                          The ONLY possible knock on him anybody could rationally have is that 2/3 or so of a season is not enough to prove how good he is. Fine, if you think that, I'll make it a prediction rather than a proven fact.
                          Maybe that is the best way I should look at it, a prediction rather than a proven fact That makes more sense to me.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tony Oday
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                            I've said consistently, Ryan Grant is a unique special talent, no less than the 3rd best RB in the NFL behind Peterson and Tomlinson (in that order).

                            The ONLY possible knock on him anybody could rationally have is that 2/3 or so of a season is not enough to prove how good he is. Fine, if you think that, I'll make it a prediction rather than a proven fact.
                            Maybe that is the best way I should look at it, a prediction rather than a proven fact That makes more sense to me.
                            Count me in. Grant as a 1800-2000 yard rusher is the prescription the Packers need to fill.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              He led the conference in rushing once he took over the starting job. That will get a bandwagon loaded up fast.
                              It was that and the fact that he was such a HUGE upgrade over the other RB's on the roster that make so many consider him a savior. Peterson's probably overrated considering that Chester Taylor ran nearly as well as Peterson did behind the same Oline.

                              Ryan Grant gave us a running game. The vikes still had one even after AP got injured. So, Grant is the more valuable RB.

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