Grant

[esoxx]

Someone who burst on the scene in a dominating fashion was Earl Campbell. Incredible power and ability.

[Freak Out]

For my money I'm a dickerson fan...6'4" with top end speed and crazy vision. Lasted a long time, had a 2k yard season, and multiple 1500 seasons.

As soon as he got rid of those shoes.

[bobblehead]

I never said he was the second best RB of all-time.

He may or may not be injury prone, but there hasn't been a better runner come into the league since Jim Brown.

Seriously. Peterson has crazy skills. Apparently, not too many people have watched him a lot. Athletically, he is to RBs what Randy Moss was to WRs when he came out. Of course, Green Bay as a team still did as well or better than the Vikings with Moss.

I agree, he is fantastic, I disagree he is the best runner to come out since jim brown. I watched him plenty last year, he is a stud. But guys like dickerson, sanders, smith...you can't say he is better than them. As you said, sanders was unique, but smith had goofy vision, as did dickerson, along with size and speed. and Bo Jackson imo was the most talented runner ever, but his career was spotty. Lets see what happens with AP this year, if he pops off 2k in his second year I'll put him in terell davis territory.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree, he is fantastic, I disagree he is the best runner to come out since jim brown. I watched him plenty last year, he is a stud. But guys like dickerson, sanders, smith...you can't say he is better than them. As you said, sanders was unique, but smith had goofy vision, as did dickerson, along with size and speed. and Bo Jackson imo was the most talented runner ever, but his career was spotty. Lets see what happens with AP this year, if he pops off 2k in his second year I'll put him in terell davis territory.

Jim Brown
Eric Dickerson
Adrian Peterson

Broke the mold on size, speed, moves. I forgot about Bo. Athletically, he was a freak and he'd belong in this group. I won't say Sanders. Great moves and speed, but didn't have the power of these guys. Same with Sayers. Emmitt Smith is laughable. He was a very good RB that played behind GREAT run blocking OL. Payton was close, but not quite in their league as a runner. He was a phenomenal blocker and receiver though. Tough as nails too.

IMHO, the five most gifted runners in NFL history were: Brown, Dickerson, Peterson, Bo Jackson, and O.J. Simpson.

If I had to rank them, I'd rank them Brown, Bo, Peterson, Dickerson, and Simpson

There are a bunch of other guys that are nearly as gifted as those guys as runners (Sanders, LT, Steven Jackson, Larry Johnson, Marcus Allen, Marshall Faulk, Payton, etc.) However, those guys are my top 5 for most physically gifted runners of all-time.

Now, Peterson has a LONG way to go before he can match their accomplishments. He needs longevity.

[superfan]

I agree with the overall premise of the original post, which I take to be praise but skepticism. I love what I saw out of Grant last year, but I think it is premature to crown him as one of the top 5-10 backs in the NFL.

His biggest attribute seems to be hitting the hole with a full head of steam. He gets the ball, he is immediately hitting the LOS. This is effective in regards to limiting negative yardage and breaking occasional big runs. Whether this is sustainable with success over a full season, I don't know.

[Scott Campbell]

Adrian Peterson isn't overrated. He may or may not be injury prone, but there hasn't been a better runner come into the league since Jim Brown.

Holy shit!

He just leap frogged Walter Peyton and Barry Sanders in just a single year.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Grant

I just do not understand all the love for Grant.

Its simple Tony - too many big runs, through too many tiny creases, through too many would be tacklers to be a fluke.

I sure hope my eyes weren't lying to me last year, because that's what I saw.

[Bossman641]

Chester Taylor is just a guy. Money Morency (albeit he has immense potential) is just a guy, same with Jackson as this point. Peterson is much better than Grant. The dropoff is greater from Peterson to Taylor than it is from Grant to Morency, because Peterson is that much better than Grant.

Peterson is a superstar, no doubt, but I think you are underrating Taylor a bit. He's a very solid RB. Morency is a guy who might not even make the team. I'd say dropoff from Grant to Mo is greater than AP to Taylor, especially when you factor in the Vikings' OL.

[texaspackerbacker]

Dickerson is the one Grant reminds me of the most.

I clean forgot Payton--and Emmit Smith too. I guess that means that longevity and pure ability are very different.

Tyrone, I overlooked your "cutting" post earlier, but I assume you refer to the guy I mentioned--the Juice. If not, who? Scary to think we agree on something. At least we apparently don't about Grant.

[bobblehead]

Dickerson is the one Grant reminds me of the most.

I clean forgot Payton--and Emmit Smith too. I guess that means that longevity and pure ability are very different.

Tyrone, I overlooked your "cutting" post earlier, but I assume you refer to the guy I mentioned--the Juice. If not, who? Scary to think we agree on something. At least we apparently don't about Grant.

He reminds me of dickerson...well, not in the least. Curt Warren I think was the name of the guy from seattle who was a rookie same year as Dickerson and he was VERY much like Grant...a one cut runner. He saw the hold, cut to it and ran with full intensity. Great vision, really good speed and not too easy to take down. Heres to hoping Grant doesn't follow his career path of a blown knee in his second season.

[Partial]

Chester Taylor is just a guy. Money Morency (albeit he has immense potential) is just a guy, same with Jackson as this point. Peterson is much better than Grant. The dropoff is greater from Peterson to Taylor than it is from Grant to Morency, because Peterson is that much better than Grant.

Peterson is a superstar, no doubt, but I think you are underrating Taylor a bit. He's a very solid RB. Morency is a guy who might not even make the team. I'd say dropoff from Grant to Mo is greater than AP to Taylor, especially when you factor in the Vikings' OL.

Taylor has shown more than Morency but Morency has all the traits required to be successful in the NFL. Now that he's healthy he looks a lot better than BJack in every facet of the game so far.

[Bossman641]

Chester Taylor is just a guy. Money Morency (albeit he has immense potential) is just a guy, same with Jackson as this point. Peterson is much better than Grant. The dropoff is greater from Peterson to Taylor than it is from Grant to Morency, because Peterson is that much better than Grant.

Peterson is a superstar, no doubt, but I think you are underrating Taylor a bit. He's a very solid RB. Morency is a guy who might not even make the team. I'd say dropoff from Grant to Mo is greater than AP to Taylor, especially when you factor in the Vikings' OL.

Taylor has shown more than Morency but Morency has all the traits required to be successful in the NFL. Now that he's healthy he looks a lot better than BJack in every facet of the game so far.

What games have you been watching? Morency hasn't done shit, hasn't really been given the chance, but still. 8 carries for 12 yards? I'm just wondering what you are basing this on.

[mission]

Chester Taylor is just a guy. Money Morency (albeit he has immense potential) is just a guy, same with Jackson as this point. Peterson is much better than Grant. The dropoff is greater from Peterson to Taylor than it is from Grant to Morency, because Peterson is that much better than Grant.

Peterson is a superstar, no doubt, but I think you are underrating Taylor a bit. He's a very solid RB. Morency is a guy who might not even make the team. I'd say dropoff from Grant to Mo is greater than AP to Taylor, especially when you factor in the Vikings' OL.

Taylor has shown more than Morency but Morency has all the traits required to be successful in the NFL. Now that he's healthy he looks a lot better than BJack in every facet of the game so far.

You know nothing about football, success or the NFL.

Sorry, just the facts.

Try me again.

[Partial]

Chester Taylor is just a guy. Money Morency (albeit he has immense potential) is just a guy, same with Jackson as this point. Peterson is much better than Grant. The dropoff is greater from Peterson to Taylor than it is from Grant to Morency, because Peterson is that much better than Grant.

Peterson is a superstar, no doubt, but I think you are underrating Taylor a bit. He's a very solid RB. Morency is a guy who might not even make the team. I'd say dropoff from Grant to Mo is greater than AP to Taylor, especially when you factor in the Vikings' OL.

Taylor has shown more than Morency but Morency has all the traits required to be successful in the NFL. Now that he's healthy he looks a lot better than BJack in every facet of the game so far.

What games have you been watching? Morency hasn't done shit, hasn't really been given the chance, but still. 8 carries for 12 yards? I'm just wondering what you are basing this on.

He has gotten several key first downs as the third down back, and had a great camp. Money Morency would be a capable number 2.

[Partial]

Chester Taylor is just a guy. Money Morency (albeit he has immense potential) is just a guy, same with Jackson as this point. Peterson is much better than Grant. The dropoff is greater from Peterson to Taylor than it is from Grant to Morency, because Peterson is that much better than Grant.

Peterson is a superstar, no doubt, but I think you are underrating Taylor a bit. He's a very solid RB. Morency is a guy who might not even make the team. I'd say dropoff from Grant to Mo is greater than AP to Taylor, especially when you factor in the Vikings' OL.

Taylor has shown more than Morency but Morency has all the traits required to be successful in the NFL. Now that he's healthy he looks a lot better than BJack in every facet of the game so far.

You know nothing about football, success or the NFL.

Sorry, just the facts.

Try me again.

Ya know. I went and googled you and found out that you speak horrendous english and produce amateurish beats. Hell, I've done better with mario paint and that music editor.

With that said, you're too hood for me, and like Ty you're always right, so I'm not going to bother justifying the rest.

i make music.

i train producers.

i make records.

i literally do this.

with names you know, on tracks you know.

in the city you know.

get at me.

You're so modest to, btw. Nice pic as well. Look real hood to me.