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  • #61
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    It's silly to say cutting Vernand Morency and Noah Herron is "very arrogant" on the part of Thompson. Very much out of the tank playbook.
    Fine. We'll call it "extraordinarily stupid" in my opinion instead of arrogant.

    I really hope they don't regret that decision.

    Who's going to be the 3rd down back? Does Grant stay on the field all 3 players?

    I think its arrogant and short-sighted. I really do. It is a mind boggeling move to me, all love of Morency aside. I would have kept the RBs they did, but I wouldn't have kept the second full back who in my opinion isn't anything beyond just a guy. I would have kept Morency over Herron, but I would think most GMs with a young quarterback and banged up offensive line would keep a veteran third down back who is skilled at receiving in the flat as a dump off guy.

    If they want to get rid of the guy after week 2 or 3 once they know more of what they've got up front in terms of injury and overall skill of the youngens, I'm cool with that. But, we've got a HUGE division rival with a monsterous pass rush coming into town on week 1, and we gave away a valuable asset as a security blanket.

    I'm not trolling, so I don't quite understand how I sound like tank. I think my points do hold some water .

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    • #62
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
      Originally posted by Bretsky
      Interesting that many, myself included, loved the Finley pick and he looks to be a long long way away from contributing
      I liked the pick, and I still do. Most of the scouting reports said that he needed time to develop. As soon as he bulks up, he may be a starting caliber TE.
      I think he'll be better than that. He's green as grass but a big guy that can run is always valuable. Hopefully he doesn't become a perennial tease ala David Martin.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        Did you draft Robert Meachem in your FFL draft ??
        Nope. Probably should have, but he's still just the 3rd WR on the Saints right now. I did draft Chris Perry though.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Partial
          Fine. We'll call it "extraordinarily stupid" in my opinion instead of arrogant.

          I really hope they don't regret that decision.
          Why? Guys like them are available as FAs, and it doesn't take long for a RB to learn an offense.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #65
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Interesting that many, myself included, loved the Finley pick and he looks to be a long long way away from contributing
            I liked the pick, and I still do. Most of the scouting reports said that he needed time to develop. As soon as he bulks up, he may be a starting caliber TE.
            He just turned 21 in March. He's real raw still and should bulk up naturally. A fast guy with good hands who's 6'5" 250 is well worth the risk.
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            This is museum quality stupidity.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
              Originally posted by Partial
              Fine. We'll call it "extraordinarily stupid" in my opinion instead of arrogant.

              I really hope they don't regret that decision.
              Why? Guys like them are available as FAs, and it doesn't take long for a RB to learn an offense.
              Morrency is not a starter, and he's not a strong runner. He seems quick more than fast to me. He can catch, but hardly anything special.
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Partial
                I think he'll be better than that. He's green as grass but a big guy that can run is always valuable. Hopefully he doesn't become a perennial tease ala David Martin.
                Don't even jinx the kid like that P.
                Originally posted by 3irty1
                This is museum quality stupidity.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Fine. We'll call it "extraordinarily stupid" in my opinion instead of arrogant.

                  I really hope they don't regret that decision.
                  Why? Guys like them are available as FAs, and it doesn't take long for a RB to learn an offense.
                  See above. They've got a huge matchup with a team with a very good pass rush that is also the #1 run stopping defense in the league. We're going to be dropping back to pass a lot.

                  Do you trust Brandon Jackson to get the job done after what we've heard all of camp about his shortcomings in the passing game?

                  Guys like Kuhn are equally available in FA if not moreso. For week 1 and for the sake of building confidence in our quarterback, I think its a bad move.

                  Why not keep Morency/Herron for week 1 and then go for the FB if they determine someone else is capable of playin halfback.

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                  • #69
                    Because Kuhn is a good special teams player. Morency and Herron are not. The reports are that Jackson has improved. Hell, he improved last year. His missed assignment in week one of the preseason notwithstanding. I didn't see Lumpkin enough to know if he can get the job done. If all we need Morency and Herron for is pass blocking, we can get away with putting a FB or TE in the backfield.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #70
                      Bretsky endorses Lumpkin as he does Meachem for 2008
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #71
                        Yeah, in terms of pass pro both of our FBs were better than any of our RBs last year. I'd rather have Kuhn or Hall in for blitz pickup than Morencey. Plus hall has pretty good hands out of the backfield (exceptional hands for a converted LB).
                        </delurk>

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Lurker64
                          Yeah, in terms of pass pro both of our FBs were better than any of our RBs last year. I'd rather have Kuhn or Hall in for blitz pickup than Morencey. Plus hall has pretty good hands out of the backfield (exceptional hands for a converted LB).
                          Who would figure there's this much discussion about Morrency and Cement Shoes Herron? If there's a football equivalent to the Human Rain Delay, then thats Herron.
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #73
                            I'm going to miss Scorpio and Lasagne.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Zool
                              Originally posted by Lurker64
                              Yeah, in terms of pass pro both of our FBs were better than any of our RBs last year. I'd rather have Kuhn or Hall in for blitz pickup than Morencey. Plus hall has pretty good hands out of the backfield (exceptional hands for a converted LB).
                              Who would figure there's this much discussion about Morrency and Cement Shoes Herron? If there's a football equivalent to the Human Rain Delay, then thats Herron.
                              Yep - space filler. It's like arguing over who missed the NCAA tourney.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Zool
                                If there's a football equivalent to the Human Rain Delay, then thats Herron.
                                That has got to be the most accurate intersport comparison anybody has ever made. It's perfect.
                                "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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