Viking's Weaknesses

[boiga]

How do you run on play action?

This is what I get for posting while curled up in a ball from a stomach virus....

is KGB practicing?

He practiced Monday, but not Tuesday. He said he it was fine, but who knows if he stayed out today to rest or because it flared up again. They'll probably keep whether he is playing or not under wraps as long as they can.

On a good note, Bigby Practiced on Tuesday, which could be a big boost towards tipped passes from scared Vike receivers.

[gbgary]

Re: Viking's Weaknesses

What are the Vikings weaknesses?

raw meat, looting and pillaging, sex with animals.

oh...and quarterback!

[Merlin]

I expect us to come out with some very "safe" pass plays for Rodgers so he can get comfortable early. It's a huge stage being MNF, his first start, the first post-Favre game. No reason to come out with 4-5 WR and go right at the Vikings. You need to get Rodgers comfortable first, you come out and start over thinking everything, gambling, and Rodgers confidence will be shaken pretty quickly. After the San Fran game, he looked very skiddish in the pocket against Denver and this defensive line is much much better then San Fran and we will have a not so great situation with our starting OL. How this start goes for him will determine how he will look in the next game. Keep it conservative to build his confidence the first and second possession, some time to let the OL get their footing and their assignments right. Once the confidence is there, by all means open it up. Until then, it's suicide to run an aggressive game plan, too many things working against you for it to be successful.

On defense, get to Jackson, period. Adrian Pederson can beat us on his own and he may just do that but if we shake up Jackson early he will second guess everything and they may help us stop the run because play action won't affect us.

[AV David]

Vikings Scouting Report

It is not whom you play, it is when you play them.

Normally the O line is very good on the left and mediocre to weak on the right. LT McKinney is suspended four games for bashing a bouncer over the head with a pole.

WRs are better than last year but not great. Bernard Berrian is good, but has been nursing a hamstring for a couple of weeks, Sidney Rice is pretty good but only a second year guy. Bobby Wade is a slow smurf. Robert Ferguson is, well, Robert Ferguson.

AP is the real deal.Their FB can block.

QB Tarvaris Jackson is mobile, wild, fragile and inexperienced. He sprained a knee in second preseason game and has not played since. He is practicing this week but has to be a bit rusty.

The Williams Wall (DT) is good against the run, but not as good as the numbers might indicate. They were number one against the run last year, but the pass defense was so bad everybody passed. They get very few sacks. (Ryan Pickett types)

The DEs (esp Jared Allen) can rush the passer, but are just OK against the run.They do have depth at DE. Brian Robison is pretty good as the #3 guy, good pass rusher.

LBs are good but not great.

CBs Antoine Winfield is a terrific cover guy and a good open field tackler. Very small. The other CB is a second year guy who is talented but struggled with a lot of mistakes last year.

They tried to upgrade the weakest part of the defense last year (safeties) by signing Madieu williams from the Bungles. He is supposed to be a pretty good cvover guy but not that good in run support. He has a leg injury and will not play for another 3-4 weeks. The other safety is Darren Sharper.

This is a good time to be playing them.

Very good LT out, replaced by mediocre Artis Hicks.
Good cover safety out and replaced with rookie.
Bernard Berrian slowed by a hamstring injury.
T Jack inexperienced, rusty and fragile.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Good scouting report. I watch them a lot. The only things I'd disagree with are:

Normally the O line is very good on the left and mediocre to weak on the right. LT McKinney is suspended four games for bashing a bouncer over the head with a pole.

McKinnie is a tad overrated. However, he is much better than Artis Hicks.

The Williams Wall (DT) is good against the run, but not as good as the numbers might indicate. They were number one against the run last year, but the pass defense was so bad everybody passed. They get very few sacks. (Ryan Pickett types)

They are great against the run. Kevin can also rush the passer.

CBs Antoine Winfield is a terrific cover guy and a good open field tackler.

Winfield is a solid cover guy, but he's not great. He is a great tackler.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Vikings Scouting Report

It is not whom you play, it is when you play them.

Normally the O line is very good on the left and mediocre to weak on the right. LT McKinney is suspended four games for bashing a bouncer over the head with a pole.

WRs are better than last year but not great. Bernard Berrian is good, but has been nursing a hamstring for a couple of weeks, Sidney Rice is pretty good but only a second year guy. Bobby Wade is a slow smurf. Robert Ferguson is, well, Robert Ferguson.

AP is the real deal.Their FB can block.

QB Tarvaris Jackson is mobile, wild, fragile and inexperienced. He sprained a knee in second preseason game and has not played since. He is practicing this week but has to be a bit rusty.

The Williams Wall (DT) is good against the run, but not as good as the numbers might indicate. They were number one against the run last year, but the pass defense was so bad everybody passed. They get very few sacks. (Ryan Pickett types)

The DEs (esp Jared Allen) can rush the passer, but are just OK against the run.They do have depth at DE. Brian Robison is pretty good as the #3 guy, good pass rusher.

LBs are good but not great.

CBs Antoine Winfield is a terrific cover guy and a good open field tackler. Very small. The other CB is a second year guy who is talented but struggled with a lot of mistakes last year.

They tried to upgrade the weakest part of the defense last year (safeties) by signing Madieu williams from the Bungles. He is supposed to be a pretty good cvover guy but not that good in run support. He has a leg injury and will not play for another 3-4 weeks. The other safety is Darren Sharper.

This is a good time to be playing them.

Very good LT out, replaced by mediocre Artis Hicks.
Good cover safety out and replaced with rookie.
Bernard Berrian slowed by a hamstring injury.
T Jack inexperienced, rusty and fragile.

I may have bought into it until you reported that Berrian has a hamstring issue (turf toe) and Madieu Williams has a leg problem (neck). It sounds like you need to do your homework.

It's a heartfelt assesment, but very biased.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It's a heartfelt assesment, but very biased.

He got a couple of injuries wrong, but I think it's a fair assessment. Biased to you maybe, but that's probably because of your own bias.

[Scott Campbell]

I expect to see a lot of early passing and then have Grant make some tremendous runs around the right during play action fakes. Jared Allen will over pursue and leave a big hole for Grant. He never was a great run blocker.

Also, if we want to win this game we better hope that KGB will be at full speed. If he is, TJack isn't going to be happy camper with KGB bearing down into his blindspot every 3rd and long and only McKinnie's replacement trying to hold back the flood.

How do you run on play action?

I'm not telling you. You'll find out on the 8th.

Ok, here comes a stupid question. Could you play action to the fullback. And then do a delayed handoff to the halfback?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I redid it--just for the Vikings fan.

Vikings Scouting Report

It is not whom you play, it is when you play them.

Normally the O line is great on the left and solid on the right. LT McKinnie is suspended four games, but the Vikings should see no dropoff.

WRs are much better than last year. Bernard Berrian is good. Sidney Rice is really good. Bobby Wade runs great routes. Robert Ferguson is, well, Robert Ferguson.

AP is the real deal. Their FB can block.

QB Tarvaris Jackson is mobile, consistent, durable and experienced. He sprained a knee in second preseason game and has not played since. He is practicing this week, so he shouldn't be a bit rusty.

The Williams Wall (DT) is great against the run, and even better than the numbers might indicate. They get a ton of sacks.

The DEs (esp Jared Allen) can rush the passer, and are almost as good against the run. They have depth at DE. Brian Robison is pretty good as the #3 guy, good pass rusher.

LBs are great.

CBs Antoine Winfield is a terrific cover guy and a great open field tackler. The other CB is a second year guy who is talented but struggled with a lot of mistakes last year. He should be close to Pro Bowl level this year.

Madieu Williams is a great cover guy and almost as good in run support. He has a leg injury and will not play for another 3-4 weeks. The other safety is Darren Sharper. He's still an All-Pro caliber safety.

This is not a good time to be playing them.

[AV David]

"AV David wrote:
The Williams Wall (DT) is good against the run, but not as good as the numbers might indicate. They were number one against the run last year, but the pass defense was so bad everybody passed. They get very few sacks. (Ryan Pickett types)


They are great against the run. Kevin can also rush the passer. "

Harvey:

I am not absolutely positive, but if my memory is correct, K Williams had no sacks in 2006. He may have had a couple last year. I agree he is a heck of a DT.

[AV David]

"I may have bought into it until you reported that Berrian has a hamstring issue (turf toe) and Madieu Williams has a leg problem (neck). It sounds like you need to do your homework."




You know its not like I give a shit about the Vikings. I just live here.

[MadtownPacker]

It's a heartfelt assesment, but very biased.

I have a confidential source that is telling me childress schedule a boat trip for Sunday since they had the day off.

Now that is biased reporting.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I am not absolutely positive, but if my memory is correct, K Williams had no sacks in 2006. He may have had a couple last year. I agree he is a heck of a DT.

I think you are thinking of Udeze. He had 0 sacks in 2006. Kevin has 34 sacks in 5 years--although he hasn't had more than 5 since his second year.

[Iron Mike]

Well, I don't care if it rains or freezes, Long as I got my Purple Jesus....

[gex]

Slants are always good against a strong DL but it may not be as effective this year. Last year the Vikes had a hard time applying pressure without blitzing, this year they shouldn't have to blitz nearly as much and can sit back on those routes.

Its going to be a long day for our O-line Monday.
I'd like to hear from some Queens fans what you think the Pack's weakness's are and how the Queens are going to take advantage of them?