Viking's Weaknesses

[mission]

Slants are always good against a strong DL but it may not be as effective this year. Last year the Vikes had a hard time applying pressure without blitzing, this year they shouldn't have to blitz nearly as much and can sit back on those routes.

Its going to be a long day for our O-line Monday.
I'd like to hear from some Queens fans what you think the Pack's weakness's are and how the Queens are going to take advantage of them?

that's really the only thing that has me worried... not even AP (but he's on my FF team just in case :/)

[Rastak]

Slants are always good against a strong DL but it may not be as effective this year. Last year the Vikes had a hard time applying pressure without blitzing, this year they shouldn't have to blitz nearly as much and can sit back on those routes.

Its going to be a long day for our O-line Monday.
I'd like to hear from some Queens fans what you think the Pack's weakness's are and how the Queens are going to take advantage of them?

It'll be interesting to see how the Fudgies play the Queens. Teams at the end of last year stuffed 8 or 9 in the box. So if that is the case, the weakness is obviously the Fudgies bump and run. If Jackson isn;t a statue then the Queens should be able to hit a couple big plays which has to loosen things up. That's the key. The Fudgies have great hitting safeties but I don't trust their coverage skills. If the Queens "bust" Shiancoe looks like he's looked thus far this year, he might make a little noise, because of the run first plays on defense.

If the Fudgies play it straight up, then the Queens need to be able to run straight at the left side of the field. Screens and traps, get AD the ball early and often.

[boiga]

I don't expect the Vike receivers to have a big game on monday. Bernard Berrian has been owned consistently by Al Harris (27 yrds total in 2007) and they don't have much depth in that position (fergy?)

So, we'll keep 8 or 9 in the box, force you guys into max protect with a couple of stunts and try and make Tarvaris beat us. The only way I see the vikings having a big passing game is through the TE, but I don't even know who their TE is. Is he any good?

[Rastak]

I don't expect the Vike receivers to have a big game on monday. Bernard Berrian has been owned consistently by Al Harris (27 yrds total in 2007) and they don't have much depth in that position (fergy?)

So, we'll keep 8 or 9 in the box, force you guys into max protect with a couple of stunts and try and make Tarvaris beat us. The only way I see the vikings having a big passing game is through the TE, but I don't even know who their TE is. Is he any good?

As far as TE's:
He's been somewhat of a bust since they signed him. He had a couple nice catches in the preseason and had a couple last year but has been largly disappointing. That's Shiancoe. They also have a guy Garret Mills who looks promising but hasn't played much. Kleinssaser is a great blocker, almost like another tsckle and can catch some but they rarely throw it his way. He's just a big dude.

At reciever they have more depth than you might think. Ferguson is #4 from what I see. Bobby Wade plays the slot just fine and Rice is a solid #2. Allison showed flashes last year, after getting dinged up early and has looked good this summer. They are going to be MUCH better at reciever this year. Last year was pretty bad.

Lastly, Jackson is the x-factor. I believe he had a 127 QB rating this preseason but with limited reps because of Ray Lewis trying to twist his knee off. It actually looked like a wresling move. If Jackson is a statue back there I like Green Bay's chances Monday. Kampman vs Cook and if healthy KGB on third downs against Hicks may go the Packers way.

I like the Vikings DL vs the Packers OL, despite Green Bay's nice numbers last year for their OL. If the Vikings get pressure from their front 4 and throw in plenty of stunts and blitzes to rattle Rodgers they also have a good chance.


All in all, I see this as a close one, these teams aren't too far apart and it should be a lower scoring game I'm guessing.

[Carolina_Packer]

I don't know schemes well at all, admitedly, but I would think that if our O-line is facing a strong pass rush, then multi-step drops would be somewhat out of the question. Our WR's are good at getting separation and YAC, so common sense to me would say, do quick hitting plays and let the receivers gain the extra yardage, which means the pass protection won't have to last as long and Rodgers doesn't hold the ball long enough to be sacked. They almost have to run, even modestly to keep them honest, and you saw last year they came up with a few good wrinkles, even against the vaunted run stopping D of the Vikes last year. That TD run by Grant was a thing of beauty when you saw it broken down after the fact. They also have to have somewhat of a successful run game to eat clock and tire the Minnesota defense more.

As for D, I saw McCarthy say the other day, the key is gap discipline and no peeking into gaps. If they can stay disciplined in gaps, then they can bottle the run game, much like they did when they whooped them last year. If not, Peterson will run wild. I would gladly trade sacks for pressures or penalties in the pass game. Sometimes when you sell out the rush, you can over persue and get caught dead and give up a medium to big play if you don't get to the passer or you don't collapse the pocket.

[Scott Campbell]

I like the Vikings DL vs the Packers OL, .................

With the money and pics you guys gave up, you better like than line against any OL in the league. I like them so much I'm thinking of sitting Ryan Grant favor of Ray Rice.

[The Gunshooter]

I can't believe Bob McGinn picks MN to win the division. Jared Allen will not make that much of a difference and GB loses nothing with Rodgers.

[esoxx]

I disagree. Allen had 15.5 sacks last year and is a high motor guy. Playing in the dome he's going to have even more of an advantage getting off on the snap as opposed to the OT due to crowd noise.
That front four, including Ray Edwards, is very impressive and will be for real.
As far as weaknesses, Brad Childress and T. Jackson. Until they prove otherwise, they will be the ultimate undoing for the Vikes this season.

[falco]

I disagree. Allen had 15.5 sacks last year and is a high motor guy. Playing in the dome he's going to have even more of an advantage getting off on the snap as opposed to the OT due to crowd noise.
That front four, including Ray Edwards, is very impressive and will be for real.
As far as weaknesses, Brad Childress and T. Jackson. Until they prove otherwise, they will be the ultimate undoing for the Vikes this season.

monday night will be very telling

[The Gunshooter]

I disagree. Allen had 15.5 sacks last year and is a high motor guy. Playing in the dome he's going to have even more of an advantage getting off on the snap as opposed to the OT due to crowd noise.
That front four, including Ray Edwards, is very impressive and will be for real.
As far as weaknesses, Brad Childress and T. Jackson. Until they prove otherwise, they will be the ultimate undoing for the Vikes this season.

It's all hype to sell tickets. Clifton has 40lbs on the guy and throws him around like a rag doll. CHI scares me more than MN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iuP8Ugrepo

[BF4MVP]

No quarterback, only 1 decent receiver, no defensive backfield...

Stick extra guys in the box to stop AP and let Woodson and Harris do their jobs against the receivers..

On offense, I expect us to throw the ball quite a bit to take advantage of the terrible pass defense and limit the Williams "brothers'" mpact as much as possible..I expect The Queens to "make Aaron Rodgers beat them" and I think he's very capable of doing just that.

Clifton will have to play well against Allen, and Rodgers is going to have to make quick decisions and get the ball out quickly..

If the Packers can do these things (It's a tough task, so a big if), I expect a Green Bay victory, and I don't think it'll be that close, to be honest...(knocking on wood of course)