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  • Originally posted by bobblehead
    Originally posted by Partial
    Originally posted by MJZiggy
    But we've already seen how he does against Dallas, and as I recall, he was pretty damn good. I know your next sentence and think about this: the Vikings planned for him didn't they? And gunned for him and based a good portion of their offseason on this one game. I just don't see the helmet mark in Rodgers' back...
    We'll see how he does against Dallas. Consistency is king. We could only hope he can consistently put up passer ratings of 100+.

    Two years ago, Rex Grossman led the league in games above 100 pass rating. Scary thought. But, it all comes down to consistency. Anyone can get hot and do it once. Can he consistently? I hope so.
    This isn't meant to bag on brett, but rodgers already has a better game against dallas under his belt than favre does. After rodgers wins 2 superbowls I will declare him better than brett....unless he gets them behind a 2k rushing ryan grant, then I will call them comparable. Its all about wins, doing what it takes and getting to/thru the playoffs. I am a big rodgers fan and I was ready for the change, but no matter what happens this season I won't declare him in favres league...even if we win the superbowl.

    Exactly.. there is no one saying we can't have another good QB in Green Bay, but to put him in the sentence with Brett is insane... we won't see another like him, good or bad.

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    • Originally posted by bobblehead
      Originally posted by Partial
      Originally posted by MJZiggy
      But we've already seen how he does against Dallas, and as I recall, he was pretty damn good. I know your next sentence and think about this: the Vikings planned for him didn't they? And gunned for him and based a good portion of their offseason on this one game. I just don't see the helmet mark in Rodgers' back...
      We'll see how he does against Dallas. Consistency is king. We could only hope he can consistently put up passer ratings of 100+.

      Two years ago, Rex Grossman led the league in games above 100 pass rating. Scary thought. But, it all comes down to consistency. Anyone can get hot and do it once. Can he consistently? I hope so.
      This isn't meant to bag on brett, but rodgers already has a better game against dallas under his belt than favre does. After rodgers wins 2 superbowls I will declare him better than brett....unless he gets them behind a 2k rushing ryan grant, then I will call them comparable. Its all about wins, doing what it takes and getting to/thru the playoffs. I am a big rodgers fan and I was ready for the change, but no matter what happens this season I won't declare him in favres league...even if we win the superbowl.
      Here is an interesting stat I found. Rofgers completed 80%+ of his passes Monday night. How many games with 80%+ completion rate did Brett have in his 16 seasons in GB? One. Thats right, one. The final regular season game against the Lions, his final regular season game as a Packer last year.

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      • Originally posted by cpk1994
        Originally posted by bobblehead
        Originally posted by Partial
        Originally posted by MJZiggy
        But we've already seen how he does against Dallas, and as I recall, he was pretty damn good. I know your next sentence and think about this: the Vikings planned for him didn't they? And gunned for him and based a good portion of their offseason on this one game. I just don't see the helmet mark in Rodgers' back...
        We'll see how he does against Dallas. Consistency is king. We could only hope he can consistently put up passer ratings of 100+.

        Two years ago, Rex Grossman led the league in games above 100 pass rating. Scary thought. But, it all comes down to consistency. Anyone can get hot and do it once. Can he consistently? I hope so.
        This isn't meant to bag on brett, but rodgers already has a better game against dallas under his belt than favre does. After rodgers wins 2 superbowls I will declare him better than brett....unless he gets them behind a 2k rushing ryan grant, then I will call them comparable. Its all about wins, doing what it takes and getting to/thru the playoffs. I am a big rodgers fan and I was ready for the change, but no matter what happens this season I won't declare him in favres league...even if we win the superbowl.
        Here is an interesting stat I found. Rofgers completed 80%+ of his passes Monday night. How many games with 80%+ completion rate did Brett have in his 16 seasons in GB? One. Thats right, one. The final regular season game against the Lions, his final regular season game as a Packer last year.

        thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre

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        • Originally posted by Pacopete4
          thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre
          This really gets old, but let's be honest here.

          1) 24-7 = 17

          2) How many did we put up in our first game last year against Philly? Try 9 points. I think that's as pertinent since the team was obviously rusty in its first game--just like last year. 3 points wiped off by a bad kick and 7 points on a great throw wiped out because an OL was downfield.

          3) Weren't the Vikings supposed to be dramatically improved because they signed the "best DE" in the NFL?

          Of course, Green Bay didn't have Jennings in game 1 last year, and they didn't have Ryan Grant and his 12 carries. Those would have helped Brett last year.

          It is interesting though that Rodgers completed 81.8% and Brett never did that in a game where he threw more than 11 passes (he was 9 for 11 in that last game against Detroit). We'll see a different style of QB play from Rodgers. I think we can win with that style, but we'll see.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • Originally posted by Pacopete4
            Originally posted by cpk1994
            Originally posted by bobblehead
            Originally posted by Partial
            Originally posted by MJZiggy
            But we've already seen how he does against Dallas, and as I recall, he was pretty damn good. I know your next sentence and think about this: the Vikings planned for him didn't they? And gunned for him and based a good portion of their offseason on this one game. I just don't see the helmet mark in Rodgers' back...
            We'll see how he does against Dallas. Consistency is king. We could only hope he can consistently put up passer ratings of 100+.

            Two years ago, Rex Grossman led the league in games above 100 pass rating. Scary thought. But, it all comes down to consistency. Anyone can get hot and do it once. Can he consistently? I hope so.
            This isn't meant to bag on brett, but rodgers already has a better game against dallas under his belt than favre does. After rodgers wins 2 superbowls I will declare him better than brett....unless he gets them behind a 2k rushing ryan grant, then I will call them comparable. Its all about wins, doing what it takes and getting to/thru the playoffs. I am a big rodgers fan and I was ready for the change, but no matter what happens this season I won't declare him in favres league...even if we win the superbowl.
            Here is an interesting stat I found. Rofgers completed 80%+ of his passes Monday night. How many games with 80%+ completion rate did Brett have in his 16 seasons in GB? One. Thats right, one. The final regular season game against the Lions, his final regular season game as a Packer last year.

            thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre
            Way to pump up the numbers for Favre. Interesting how you credit Favre with the FG and Not ARod. So either ARod produced 17 pts or Brett had 28 & 14. I know you love Favre but this is rediuculous.

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            • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
              Originally posted by Pacopete4
              thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre
              This really gets old, but let's be honest here.

              1) 24-7 = 17

              2) How many did we put up in our first game last year against Philly? Try 9 points. I think that's as pertinent since the team was obviously rusty in its first game--just like last year. 3 points wiped off by a bad kick and 7 points on a great throw wiped out because an OL was downfield.

              3) Weren't the Vikings supposed to be dramatically improved because they signed the "best DE" in the NFL?

              Of course, Green Bay didn't have Jennings in game 1 last year, and they didn't have Ryan Grant and his 12 carries. Those would have helped Brett last year.

              It is interesting though that Rodgers completed 81.8% and Brett never did that in a game where he threw more than 11 passes (he was 9 for 11 in that last game against Detroit). We'll see a different style of QB play from Rodgers. I think we can win with that style, but we'll see.

              Just defending Brett.. and will continue to do so when guys like CPK give some jibber jabber about Brett compared to Arod.... there is no comparison, never will be

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              • Originally posted by Pacopete4
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by Pacopete4
                thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre
                This really gets old, but let's be honest here.

                1) 24-7 = 17

                2) How many did we put up in our first game last year against Philly? Try 9 points. I think that's as pertinent since the team was obviously rusty in its first game--just like last year. 3 points wiped off by a bad kick and 7 points on a great throw wiped out because an OL was downfield.

                3) Weren't the Vikings supposed to be dramatically improved because they signed the "best DE" in the NFL?

                Of course, Green Bay didn't have Jennings in game 1 last year, and they didn't have Ryan Grant and his 12 carries. Those would have helped Brett last year.

                It is interesting though that Rodgers completed 81.8% and Brett never did that in a game where he threw more than 11 passes (he was 9 for 11 in that last game against Detroit). We'll see a different style of QB play from Rodgers. I think we can win with that style, but we'll see.

                Just defending Brett.. and will continue to do so when guys like CPK give some jibber jabber about Brett compared to Arod.... there is no comparison, never will be
                It wasn't jibber jabber. It was cold hard facts and an interesting one I thought I would share. Of course, only a Favre loon would call it jibber jabber...

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                • Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4
                  thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre
                  This really gets old, but let's be honest here.

                  1) 24-7 = 17

                  2) How many did we put up in our first game last year against Philly? Try 9 points. I think that's as pertinent since the team was obviously rusty in its first game--just like last year. 3 points wiped off by a bad kick and 7 points on a great throw wiped out because an OL was downfield.

                  3) Weren't the Vikings supposed to be dramatically improved because they signed the "best DE" in the NFL?

                  Of course, Green Bay didn't have Jennings in game 1 last year, and they didn't have Ryan Grant and his 12 carries. Those would have helped Brett last year.

                  It is interesting though that Rodgers completed 81.8% and Brett never did that in a game where he threw more than 11 passes (he was 9 for 11 in that last game against Detroit). We'll see a different style of QB play from Rodgers. I think we can win with that style, but we'll see.

                  Just defending Brett.. and will continue to do so when guys like CPK give some jibber jabber about Brett compared to Arod.... there is no comparison, never will be
                  It wasn't jibber jabber. It was cold hard facts and an interesting one I thought I would share. Of course, only a Favre loon would call it jibber jabber...

                  haha that one almost had me fall outta my chair, that was funny

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                  • Originally posted by Pacopete4
                    Originally posted by bobblehead
                    Originally posted by Partial
                    Originally posted by MJZiggy
                    But we've already seen how he does against Dallas, and as I recall, he was pretty damn good. I know your next sentence and think about this: the Vikings planned for him didn't they? And gunned for him and based a good portion of their offseason on this one game. I just don't see the helmet mark in Rodgers' back...
                    We'll see how he does against Dallas. Consistency is king. We could only hope he can consistently put up passer ratings of 100+.

                    Two years ago, Rex Grossman led the league in games above 100 pass rating. Scary thought. But, it all comes down to consistency. Anyone can get hot and do it once. Can he consistently? I hope so.
                    This isn't meant to bag on brett, but rodgers already has a better game against dallas under his belt than favre does. After rodgers wins 2 superbowls I will declare him better than brett....unless he gets them behind a 2k rushing ryan grant, then I will call them comparable. Its all about wins, doing what it takes and getting to/thru the playoffs. I am a big rodgers fan and I was ready for the change, but no matter what happens this season I won't declare him in favres league...even if we win the superbowl.

                    Exactly.. there is no one saying we can't have another good QB in Green Bay, but to put him in the sentence with Brett is insane... we won't see another like him, good or bad.
                    To compare their careers is insane. To compare their current talent level is a fair argument that you can go either way with.

                    Like it or not, Aaron Rodgers is looking pretty good. He played an excellent game against an opponent that was supposed to have a top notch defense. It was only one game, and for all we know Minny may really suck. For that matter, Minny might go 14-2 and roll over everyone else this year. Even considering the confidence building game plan, AR played an excellent game.

                    Brett likewise, looked pretty good in his opener with the NYJ. I wish him a lot of luck, not just because of our draft pick ties to the trade, but because I am a fan.

                    AR is not what Brett once was, but he may be as good as Brett is now. It is impossible to tell - they both play the position differently. You can point to BF's scramble/launch for a TD and state that AR could not do that. Or you could point to ARs scramble for a first down and state that BF could not do that. You are perhaps correct in both cases (although I think it more likely that AR makes the scramble/launch play). Regardless - AR is playing very well and is still young - that is, he should continue to improve for the next few years.

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                    • AR brings an ability to scramble for first downs that Brett can't do anymore.

                      Of course, thay may just be the foolishness of youth.

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                      • Originally posted by Pacopete4
                        Originally posted by bobblehead
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by MJZiggy
                        But we've already seen how he does against Dallas, and as I recall, he was pretty damn good. I know your next sentence and think about this: the Vikings planned for him didn't they? And gunned for him and based a good portion of their offseason on this one game. I just don't see the helmet mark in Rodgers' back...
                        We'll see how he does against Dallas. Consistency is king. We could only hope he can consistently put up passer ratings of 100+.

                        Two years ago, Rex Grossman led the league in games above 100 pass rating. Scary thought. But, it all comes down to consistency. Anyone can get hot and do it once. Can he consistently? I hope so.
                        This isn't meant to bag on brett, but rodgers already has a better game against dallas under his belt than favre does. After rodgers wins 2 superbowls I will declare him better than brett....unless he gets them behind a 2k rushing ryan grant, then I will call them comparable. Its all about wins, doing what it takes and getting to/thru the playoffs. I am a big rodgers fan and I was ready for the change, but no matter what happens this season I won't declare him in favres league...even if we win the superbowl.

                        Exactly.. there is no one saying we can't have another good QB in Green Bay, but to put him in the sentence with Brett is insane... we won't see another like him, good or bad.
                        Easy tiger, i didn't say he would NEVER be compared to favre, I hope dearly that he is. I'm just saying that to do so right now is pointless as he is one NFL start under his belt and BF went to 2 superbowls. We can compare all the numbers we want, and AR had a great first start. He hopefully will have a great season. But as much as I was ready to close the BF era we can't compare them for at least 5 years.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • Originally posted by bobblehead
                          Originally posted by Pacopete4
                          Originally posted by bobblehead
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by MJZiggy
                          But we've already seen how he does against Dallas, and as I recall, he was pretty damn good. I know your next sentence and think about this: the Vikings planned for him didn't they? And gunned for him and based a good portion of their offseason on this one game. I just don't see the helmet mark in Rodgers' back...
                          We'll see how he does against Dallas. Consistency is king. We could only hope he can consistently put up passer ratings of 100+.

                          Two years ago, Rex Grossman led the league in games above 100 pass rating. Scary thought. But, it all comes down to consistency. Anyone can get hot and do it once. Can he consistently? I hope so.
                          This isn't meant to bag on brett, but rodgers already has a better game against dallas under his belt than favre does. After rodgers wins 2 superbowls I will declare him better than brett....unless he gets them behind a 2k rushing ryan grant, then I will call them comparable. Its all about wins, doing what it takes and getting to/thru the playoffs. I am a big rodgers fan and I was ready for the change, but no matter what happens this season I won't declare him in favres league...even if we win the superbowl.

                          Exactly.. there is no one saying we can't have another good QB in Green Bay, but to put him in the sentence with Brett is insane... we won't see another like him, good or bad.
                          Easy tiger, i didn't say he would NEVER be compared to favre, I hope dearly that he is. I'm just saying that to do so right now is pointless as he is one NFL start under his belt and BF went to 2 superbowls. We can compare all the numbers we want, and AR had a great first start. He hopefully will have a great season. But as much as I was ready to close the BF era we can't compare them for at least 5 years.
                          Fair enough.

                          But <used car salesman>let's just say</cheesy> Rodgers happens to win the Super Bowl this year. Now I'm not saying that's gonna happen... just imagine for a moment.

                          One season, one Super Bowl ring doesn't match the career achievement of Brett Favre (I really doubt that will ever happen tbh) but I think direct comparisons from a bottom line standpoint are fair to begin if they aren't already in full flame due to a (hypothetical) outstanding and currently ongoing A-Rod season.

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                          • Originally posted by Pacopete4
                            Originally posted by cpk1994
                            Originally posted by Pacopete4
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                            Originally posted by Pacopete4
                            thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre
                            This really gets old, but let's be honest here.

                            1) 24-7 = 17

                            2) How many did we put up in our first game last year against Philly? Try 9 points. I think that's as pertinent since the team was obviously rusty in its first game--just like last year. 3 points wiped off by a bad kick and 7 points on a great throw wiped out because an OL was downfield.

                            3) Weren't the Vikings supposed to be dramatically improved because they signed the "best DE" in the NFL?

                            Of course, Green Bay didn't have Jennings in game 1 last year, and they didn't have Ryan Grant and his 12 carries. Those would have helped Brett last year.

                            It is interesting though that Rodgers completed 81.8% and Brett never did that in a game where he threw more than 11 passes (he was 9 for 11 in that last game against Detroit). We'll see a different style of QB play from Rodgers. I think we can win with that style, but we'll see.

                            Just defending Brett.. and will continue to do so when guys like CPK give some jibber jabber about Brett compared to Arod.... there is no comparison, never will be
                            It wasn't jibber jabber. It was cold hard facts and an interesting one I thought I would share. Of course, only a Favre loon would call it jibber jabber...

                            haha that one almost had me fall outta my chair, that was funny
                            Sometimes when I get hit hard with hard facts about myself, I laugh too.

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                            • Originally posted by DannoMac21
                              Originally posted by Pacopete4
                              Originally posted by cpk1994
                              Originally posted by Pacopete4
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Originally posted by Pacopete4
                              thats fine.. its good he's not trying to be like Brett because he wouldn't succeed in doing so.. It was nice to see our offense only put up 14 instead of 34 and 23 like they did a year ago under the QB play of Brett Favre
                              This really gets old, but let's be honest here.

                              1) 24-7 = 17

                              2) How many did we put up in our first game last year against Philly? Try 9 points. I think that's as pertinent since the team was obviously rusty in its first game--just like last year. 3 points wiped off by a bad kick and 7 points on a great throw wiped out because an OL was downfield.

                              3) Weren't the Vikings supposed to be dramatically improved because they signed the "best DE" in the NFL?

                              Of course, Green Bay didn't have Jennings in game 1 last year, and they didn't have Ryan Grant and his 12 carries. Those would have helped Brett last year.

                              It is interesting though that Rodgers completed 81.8% and Brett never did that in a game where he threw more than 11 passes (he was 9 for 11 in that last game against Detroit). We'll see a different style of QB play from Rodgers. I think we can win with that style, but we'll see.

                              Just defending Brett.. and will continue to do so when guys like CPK give some jibber jabber about Brett compared to Arod.... there is no comparison, never will be
                              It wasn't jibber jabber. It was cold hard facts and an interesting one I thought I would share. Of course, only a Favre loon would call it jibber jabber...

                              haha that one almost had me fall outta my chair, that was funny
                              Sometimes when I get hit hard with hard facts about myself, I laugh too.
                              Yea, me too Danno lol
                              Baah

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                              • A-Rod to the haters:



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