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What's the chances of picking up a 3rd and 12?Originally posted by PartialBut if we would have gotten the first down...
Either way, probably was a smart move to get rid of the last clock stoppage for the Vikes, but I like to live dangerously. Partial "danger" Powers, if you will.
I trust the defense against TJack.Go PACK
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MM played it like Holmgren used to play it. If you're up by more than a field goal late in the game, you bet the other team can't get a TD against your defense. It's the right strategy as long as it works.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Well, according to A-Rods completion percentage about 4/5Originally posted by Bossman641What's the chances of picking up a 3rd and 12?Originally posted by PartialBut if we would have gotten the first down...
Either way, probably was a smart move to get rid of the last clock stoppage for the Vikes, but I like to live dangerously. Partial "danger" Powers, if you will.
I trust the defense against TJack.
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i hope i can grow like that too man! i think a big part is that i want rodgers to succeed and think he has enough pressure on him... last thing i wanted to see was an 0-1 start... people might doubt this, but god damn, i care SO MUCH... too much.Originally posted by gbgaryi used to be that way. that subsides as the years pass.Originally posted by missionMy stomach was hurting so bad when we punted... I hate that the Packers affect me THAT much... my whole table was so happy to see that interception and they arent even Packer fans. They just wanted me to be a decent guy for the rest of hte night. lol
either that or i just got immune to it cuz of the 1000 nail bitters we lived through during the Brett years.
i want to be normal.
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i'm not talking about one play. we had three there to get a first down. just one first down would have done it. as for trusting the D that's fine but they were exhausted from being on the field the whole second half.Originally posted by Bossman641What's the chances of picking up a 3rd and 12?Originally posted by PartialBut if we would have gotten the first down...
Either way, probably was a smart move to get rid of the last clock stoppage for the Vikes, but I like to live dangerously. Partial "danger" Powers, if you will.
I trust the defense against TJack.
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Amen to that!Originally posted by Harlan Hucklebypacker fans have some nerve complaining about play calling after this game.
I think the Vikings might have won if they would have fed Peterson the ball more.
If I was a Viking fan, I'd really be raising hell.
The Packer play calling IMO had no glaring problems other than using hindsight. What more do you guys want? We won against an excellent team in a game that wasn't as close as the score, and with a large amount of sloppiness and/or raw deal type penalties (the only ones I really had a quarrel with were the pass interference calls).What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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eight in the box was shutting him down. only when tjack managed to complete a pass or two did it open up a little for ap. that and the d being completely exhausted. if minn had a qb they'd be very good.Originally posted by Harlan Hucklebypacker fans have some nerve complaining about play calling after this game.
I think the Vikings might have won if they would have fed Peterson the ball more.
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Play calling was fine.
After all its AR's first regular season game. The Vikings also have a good defense.
MM played it like Mangini -- rely on the defense to win the game at the end. Sound strategy given the Packers defense and T. Jackson's lack of experience.
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I think there was 25 seconds on the clock. Rodgers just stood next to the ref for about 20 seconds and then called a timeout. They could've easily got one more play in and try for a TD. Instead they got no points as the FG was blocked. This was the worst call in the game.Originally posted by PartialFor the 12 seconds or whatever it ran off the clock, I would have gone for it personally and taken 4-5 off in a pass.Originally posted by PackerTimerThe play call I didn't like was the end of the first half. Take a shot. I can't believe I agreed with Kornhole.
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Also realize that if the holding call had not occured, the clock would have run to 2:00 \WITHOUT another play. Then you run on 33rd down leaving the VIkes with about 1:05 - 1:10 and have to travel 3/4 of the field. I had no problem with M3 calls at the end of the game.Originally posted by Bossman641If Packers had passed and had an incomplete pass, they would have had to punt with around 2:20 or so left. Vikings would have got the ball back with 2:10 or so and had one play before the 2 min warning. Instead we ran it down to 2 min, punted, and the Vikings took over with around 1:50.Originally posted by PackerTimerYou might be right. How much time was left on the clock? I was thinking it was something like 2:30. If you throw and incomplete pass and lost 5 seconds and then a punt with 10 that gives the Vikings the ball back with 2:15 and the two minute warning. Maybe my recollection of how much time was left was wrong.Originally posted by PartialFor the 12 seconds or whatever it ran off the clock, I would have gone for it personally and taken 4-5 off in a pass.Originally posted by PackerTimerI was ok with the play calling at the end of the game. Running on third and ten there is ok. Punt the ball and let the defense get a stop. The play call I didn't like was the end of the first half. Take a shot. I can't believe I agreed with Kornhole.
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Exactly.Originally posted by cpk1994Also realize that if the holding call had not occured, the clock would have run to 2:00 \WITHOUT another play. Then you run on 33rd down leaving the VIkes with about 1:05 - 1:10 and have to travel 3/4 of the field. I had no problem with M3 calls at the end of the game.Originally posted by Bossman641If Packers had passed and had an incomplete pass, they would have had to punt with around 2:20 or so left. Vikings would have got the ball back with 2:10 or so and had one play before the 2 min warning. Instead we ran it down to 2 min, punted, and the Vikings took over with around 1:50.Originally posted by PackerTimerYou might be right. How much time was left on the clock? I was thinking it was something like 2:30. If you throw and incomplete pass and lost 5 seconds and then a punt with 10 that gives the Vikings the ball back with 2:15 and the two minute warning. Maybe my recollection of how much time was left was wrong.Originally posted by PartialFor the 12 seconds or whatever it ran off the clock, I would have gone for it personally and taken 4-5 off in a pass.Originally posted by PackerTimerI was ok with the play calling at the end of the game. Running on third and ten there is ok. Punt the ball and let the defense get a stop. The play call I didn't like was the end of the first half. Take a shot. I can't believe I agreed with Kornhole.
Like I said earlier, the holding penalty is what screwed everything up. The runs on first and second down were absolutely the right call. Everyone is looking back now and saying OMG we ran 3 times for -2 yards. Horrible play-calling.
If everything had gone how it was supposed to we would have run the clock down to 2 min after second down, ran into the middle of the line one more time and forced the Vikings to go 80 yards in a min. I don't think anyone would have had a problem with that situation.
Instead, Tauscher got the holding penalty on 2nd down and we got the worst of both worlds. Negative yards and having to run a 3rd play before the 2 min warning due to a 25 second play clock on the dead ball.
So the only question really then is "Do you trust Rodgers to pick up a 3rd and 12?"Go PACK
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like i said...just one first down would have done it. keep the ball away from minn and not let them have a chance to win it. the way aaron was playing last night he should have been trusted to pick up that first down. at the risk of being redundant, a play-action roll-out would have been perfect. run if it's there, pass if it's there or throw it away...no harm done. that's it from me on this. now let's kick some lion tail.Originally posted by Bossman641Exactly.Originally posted by cpk1994Also realize that if the holding call had not occured, the clock would have run to 2:00 \WITHOUT another play. Then you run on 33rd down leaving the VIkes with about 1:05 - 1:10 and have to travel 3/4 of the field. I had no problem with M3 calls at the end of the game.Originally posted by Bossman641If Packers had passed and had an incomplete pass, they would have had to punt with around 2:20 or so left. Vikings would have got the ball back with 2:10 or so and had one play before the 2 min warning. Instead we ran it down to 2 min, punted, and the Vikings took over with around 1:50.Originally posted by PackerTimerYou might be right. How much time was left on the clock? I was thinking it was something like 2:30. If you throw and incomplete pass and lost 5 seconds and then a punt with 10 that gives the Vikings the ball back with 2:15 and the two minute warning. Maybe my recollection of how much time was left was wrong.Originally posted by PartialFor the 12 seconds or whatever it ran off the clock, I would have gone for it personally and taken 4-5 off in a pass.Originally posted by PackerTimerI was ok with the play calling at the end of the game. Running on third and ten there is ok. Punt the ball and let the defense get a stop. The play call I didn't like was the end of the first half. Take a shot. I can't believe I agreed with Kornhole.
Like I said earlier, the holding penalty is what screwed everything up. ...
So the only question really then is "Do you trust Rodgers to pick up a 3rd and 12?"
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