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  • #16
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    Originally posted by Zool
    Maybe Sitton comes back strong again and its Colledge, Spitz and Sitton. Maybe Moll removes his head from his anus and plays well this weak against the Lions.
    As soon as Wells is healthy, there's ZERO doubt he'll be starting.
    I cant say that with any certainty. If Wells is out until the 5th or 6th game and the line is playing well, do they shuffle the whole thing?
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Zool
      I cant say that with any certainty. If Wells is out until the 5th or 6th game and the line is playing well, do they shuffle the whole thing?
      We'll see. I think Wells has more security than many thing. If Donald Lee was injured for a handful of games and Tory Humphrey tore it up, I'm sure he'd still get his starting spot back when he got healthy. I think Wells is in the same spot.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #18
        Ha
        Originally posted by 3irty1
        This is museum quality stupidity.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          Originally posted by Zool
          I cant say that with any certainty. If Wells is out until the 5th or 6th game and the line is playing well, do they shuffle the whole thing?
          We'll see.
          Partial?
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #20


            If Wells comes back, the coaches will have to decide where to play his replacement, Jason Spitz. More than likely it would be at right guard in place of Tony Moll. But they might also want to pave the way for Sitton's return and move Spitz to left guard.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
              http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=792946

              If Wells comes back, the coaches will have to decide where to play his replacement, Jason Spitz. More than likely it would be at right guard in place of Tony Moll. But they might also want to pave the way for Sitton's return and move Spitz to left guard.
              Spitz looked pretty bad at LG in preseason - but it was preseason. The coaches seem to want him on the field ahead of Colledge.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #22
                I'm telling ya, I think an injury like the one Wells has is going to be a constantly re-occurring nightmare for the guy. Friggin lower backs are just a bitch, and unlike a joint problem, there's no sure-fire surgical fix. There's just no way an OLineman can play through the kind of pain and muscle locking that occurrs with a lower back injury.

                I'm not trying to be a little black raincloud, I'm just saying we better get used to Wells being in and out of the lineup all year.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                  I hope Wells stays on the bench. I think C is Spitz's best postion.

                  I thought Moll played well, and he has a shot to hold-down the RG position. More likely Sitton will replace him when he gets back.
                  That's because that is what you thought before the game. Wells is tons better than Moll. I suspect the coaches agree, and Wells will go back to starting when he's healthy.
                  I did not have an opinion about Moll, but he is big and he played well. My opinion on Wells is he gets blown-out too much. I hope Spitz replaces him, maybe it is wishful thinking. I'd like to see Colledge-Spitz-Sitton, I think they could go the furtherst.

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                  • #24
                    I'd like to see the line that dominated the Vikings front 4 continue to dominate everyone else. If that can't happen then I'd like to see the line that dominated mostly everybody at the end of last season. Sitton might be good, but it makes no sense rushing him into the starting lineup if the guys playing now are getting the job done. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
                    Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                    • #25
                      The way the commentators explained it, Moll was SUPPOSED TO BE firing out across the line as if the QB hits the quick pass. That would inevitably leave him down field illegally on the other option--the pump and go like Rodgers threw to Driver. If that's the case, then there really is no second option--the kind of pass Driver caught.

                      That says to me that the commentators are idiots, and Moll should NOT have been down field.

                      Does anybody know for sure what is supposed to trigger the guard to move out down field--seeing the ball in the air or whatever?
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                      • #26


                        Not his fault

                        Moll appeared to have made a boneheaded mistake in the third quarter when he was flagged for illegally being downfield on a play in which quarterback Aaron Rodgers completed a 68-yard touchdown pass to receiver Donald Driver.

                        There was no apparent reason for Moll to be downfield.

                        It turns out, it was a play in which Rodgers signaled an audible to Driver on a called running play, so neither Moll nor any of his other linemates knew a pass was coming. Moll was out trying to block the middle linebacker when he was penalized.

                        "We'll absolve him," McCarthy said.

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                        • #27
                          Well, as I understand it this play is a sort of run/pass option. Everybody but Rodgers and Driver are supposed to play as though it's a running play, and when the ball is snapped Rodgers instantly looks to see if the coverage on Driver is favorable, and if not he hands the ball off, if it is he throws a quick pass to Driver.

                          Moll was just going downfield looking for a LB to block, which is what he should have done if Rodgers handed the ball off (as was the call as far as Moll is concerned.)

                          At least part of the blame here has to go to Rodgers for not getting the ball to Driver quick enough, but you can't ask the kid to be 100% perfect.
                          </delurk>

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                          • #28
                            Moll had two penalties for being downfield on passes. Larry McCerran remarked that neither of them were his fault. But even if they were partially his fault, I don't give a flying fig. It is an easily correctable mistake.

                            The main takeaway is that Moll played very well, he looks like a quality backup for three positions on the line, and maybe even has a shot to keep the starting job at RG. Hip-hip-horay.

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                            • #29
                              I'm guessing privately Moll was given some heat by McCarthy. Publicly, McCarthy took the heat off him. Maybe not. Seems strange that in McCarthy's initial comments he said that based on the design of the play that it shouldn't have been a problem. He would have known at that time it was a run/pass option play, so that part shouldn't have surprised him and made him change his mind.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #30
                                there was at least one other lineman downfield besides Moll on the TD throw.

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