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  • #16
    Well, last year Jackson was able to run effectively against the Lions. Provided he still can or Lumpkin can, no need to risk injuring Grant. Still, this whole mess was pretty stupid on Grant's behalf, hopefully he learns from it.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lurker64
      Well, last year Jackson was able to run effectively against the Lions. Provided he still can or Lumpkin can, no need to risk injuring Grant. Still, this whole mess was pretty stupid on Grant's behalf, hopefully he learns from it.
      What did he do?
      Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sheepshead
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        Well, last year Jackson was able to run effectively against the Lions. Provided he still can or Lumpkin can, no need to risk injuring Grant. Still, this whole mess was pretty stupid on Grant's behalf, hopefully he learns from it.
        What did he do?
        He should have signed the tender with assurances from the Packers that they would finish up his deal during camp. He was going to play for the Packers this year anyway, he didn't gain anything from not practicing.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
          I really doubt McCarthy or Grant told them anything privately that the public doesn't know.
          McCarthy said he was injured, Tex. The God Damned leftist media just reported it. Actually, the Packers.com page has an M3 interview where he clearly states it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Lurker64
            Originally posted by sheepshead
            Originally posted by Lurker64
            Well, last year Jackson was able to run effectively against the Lions. Provided he still can or Lumpkin can, no need to risk injuring Grant. Still, this whole mess was pretty stupid on Grant's behalf, hopefully he learns from it.
            What did he do?
            He should have signed the tender with assurances from the Packers that they would finish up his deal during camp. He was going to play for the Packers this year anyway, he didn't gain anything from not practicing.
            Well, none of us can be sure it had any effect on this injury. Hey, it's football-guys get banged up.
            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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            • #21
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
              Hey Bobblehead, check your fantasy team. I proposed a trade to you, in case you're worried about Grant.

              Terrell Owens and Warrick Dunn for Grant and Donald Driver.

              Sorry about not posting this in the Fantasy Forum. I figured it would get noticed better here.
              I wouldn't take TO for free....I gotta enjoy my team, its why I picked grant and driver.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • #22
                Originally posted by sheepshead
                Originally posted by Lurker64
                Originally posted by sheepshead
                Originally posted by Lurker64
                Well, last year Jackson was able to run effectively against the Lions. Provided he still can or Lumpkin can, no need to risk injuring Grant. Still, this whole mess was pretty stupid on Grant's behalf, hopefully he learns from it.
                What did he do?
                He should have signed the tender with assurances from the Packers that they would finish up his deal during camp. He was going to play for the Packers this year anyway, he didn't gain anything from not practicing.
                Well, none of us can be sure it had any effect on this injury. Hey, it's football-guys get banged up.
                Just another quirky coincidence, guys hold out, and get hurt after minimal practice time. That and democrat mayors.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #23
                  Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                  • #24
                    I don't think Grant's contract situation has much to do with his injury. He did not miss much of training camp at all due to his contract. Only a few days.

                    Camp started July 28.
                    Grant signed August 2.

                    It was reported that he attended all the off-season conditioning things. All that he "skipped" was the on-field OTA stuff that really has nothing to do with conditioning. He even attended those, but did not participate.

                    Maybe Grant tried too hard to show that he deserved his contract. Maybe he just has problem hamstrings. Didn't he have a little hamstring issue last year when he came from the Giants?

                    His contract has a lot of protection for the Packers. The guaranteed money is minimal. If he remains injured, he will not achieve the various incentives. The Packers have little at risk in the contract.

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                    • #25
                      Well the way the Lions defense looked trying to stop the run last week, I think you guys could a 4th stringer in there and still gain impressive yards.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                        Well the way the Lions defense looked trying to stop the run last week, I think you guys could a 4th stringer in there and still gain impressive yards.

                        I've heard everyone gushing about all week Forte. How did the Bears passing game look last week?

                        I didn't see the game.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                          Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                          Well the way the Lions defense looked trying to stop the run last week, I think you guys could a 4th stringer in there and still gain impressive yards.

                          I've heard everyone gushing about all week Forte. How did the Bears passing game look last week?

                          I didn't see the game.
                          Didn't need it with Forte running all over Colts D

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                            I've heard everyone gushing about all week Forte. How did the Bears passing game look last week?

                            I didn't see the game.
                            Orton was 13/21 for 150 yrds. He had 7.1 yards/attempt and was sacked twice. He didn't attempt a single long ball and was mainly tasked with handing the ball off to Forte. Orton did a good job not screwing up, but he didn't show anything that would suggest he can win the game for them.

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                            • #29
                              God it's good to have Patler back!

                              I did some research, and it looks like Grant had a hamstring injury his senior year at Notre Dame, which cost him his starting job. I couldn't find anything about a hammy while with the Giants, just the hand injury he suffered (which nearly caused him to bleed to death).

                              But Patler was right that he has suffered from something like this before. He's shown the capacity to heal up, and he's without question a tough cookie, so I think he'll be fine.

                              This strikes me as another instance of MM being "smart" with his players, which just makes sense in Week 2 against the friggin Lions.

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                              • #30
                                I posted about Hammies a long time ago.

                                There is very little correlation between training and hurting them. They are a freak occurence...some players get them while others don't.

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