Official Favre vs. Rodgers Statistical Analysis 2008 Thread

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Stats don't tell the whole story. Favre had 2 good games and 2 bad games. Rodgers had 2 good games, 1 alright game, and 2 bad games.

[MOBB DEEP]

Stats don't tell the whole story. Favre had 2 good games and 2 bad games. Rodgers had 2 good games, 1 alright game, and 2 bad games.

thats subjective tho parsh

[SnakeLH2006]

Stats don't tell the whole story. Favre had 2 good games and 2 bad games. Rodgers had 2 good games, 1 alright game, and 2 bad games.

I dunno about that.

Favre Ratings by Week:

1) 125.9
2) 85.6
3) 92.5
4) 123.7

Rodgers Ratings by Week:

1) 115.5
2) 117.0
3) 80.1
4) 55.9
5) 109.4

My take:

In 2008 QB ratings are up vs. 10 years ago. Anything below 80 is a bad game nowadays. 80-85 is ok. 85-95 is pretty good. 95 plus is great....Meaning Favre has had 2 great games and 2 pretty good. Arod has had 3 great, 1 ok, and one very bad games.

To date Favre's rating is now 110.8 and Arod's rating is currently 95.5 as I'll hold off stat comparisons until the games even up as it's 5-4 right now.

All things considered, Arod has exceeded my expectations as has Favre. Who's more surprising right now though? My thoughts are Favre playing this well for a "supposedly" less talented team and getting in a groove, vs. Arod doing pretty good in a system he knows. I'd rather have Favre at this point though, but it's a long season.

[SnakeLH2006]

Q

Wow...been some time, but time to bring this one back obviously.

Snakes' Take:

I'm glad we got Arod for many years, and/but haven't been stirring it up but this proves Brett makes a winner (13-3 last year vs. 5-6 this year with the Pack) or (4-12 last year and NEVER sniffing success to 8-3 and many votegetters choice as the team to beat in the AFC currently):

Here's the latest stats:

WEEK OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG TD
1 @MIA W 20-14 15 22 194 68.2 56 2 0 125.9 3 2 0.7 0
2 NE L 19-10 18 26 181 69.2 54 1 1 85.6 2 6 3.0 0
3 @SD L 48-29 30 42 271 71.4 41 3 2 92.5 2 5 2.5 0
4 ARI W 56-35 24 34 289 70.6 40 6 1 123.7 0 0 0.0 0
5 Bye Week
6 CIN W 26-14 25 33 189 75.8 29 1 2 73.9 1 -1 -1.0 0
7 @OAK L 16-13 (OT) 21 38 197 55.3 31 0 2 47.8 2 5 2.5 0
8 KC W 28-24 28 40 290 70.0 24 2 3 76.0 1 -1 -1.0 0
9 @BUF W 26-17 19 28 201 67.9 40 0 1 73.7 3 -2 -0.7 0
10 STL W 47-3 14 19 167 73.7 54 1 0 117.7 1 0 0.0 0
11 @NE W 34-31 (OT) 26 33 258 78.8 46 2 0 119.4 3 1 0.3 0
12 @TEN W 34-13 25 32 224 78.1 25 2 1 103.6 1 -1 -1.0 0

ARod:

WEEK OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG TD
1 MIN W 24-19 18 22 178 81.8 56 1 0 115.5 8 35 4.4 1
2 @DET W 48-25 24 38 328 63.2 62 3 0 117.0 4 25 6.3 0
3 DAL L 27-16 22 39 290 56.4 50 0 0 80.1 5 10 2.0 1
4 @TB L 30-21 14 27 165 51.9 48 2 3 55.9 2 8 4.0 0
5 ATL L 27-24 25 37 313 67.6 44 3 1 109.4 2 4 2.0 0
6 @SEA W 27-17 21 30 208 70.0 45 2 0 111.5 6 23 3.8 1
7 IND W 34-14 21 28 186 75.0 24 1 0 104.2 3 8 2.7 0
8 Bye Week
9 @TEN L 19-16 (OT) 22 41 314 53.7 52 1 1 76.7 2 11 5.5 0
10 @MIN L 28-27 15 26 142 57.7 19 0 0 72.9 1 1 1.0 0
11 CHI W 37-3 23 30 227 76.7 29 2 1 105.8 1 1 1.0 0
12 @NO L 51-29 23 41 248 56.1 29 2 3 59.8 8 36 4.5 1

Snake's Take

Rodgers has done very well stats wise, but after seeing EVERY game of the Packers and Jets..Favre's "IT" factor is over the roof and he does enough even in a BAD stat game to win..Arod does stats, but not enough to win sometimes. Product of the team, all things even, the LEGEND keeps it AMAZING and makes a nondescript 4-12 team in 2007, 8-3 and the class of the AFC...We got lots of problems, and ARod stat wise has been good, but DAMN if he takes NO chances to WIN a game. I'd take similar stats (as stats are moot.....even ya Favre haters know he wins game cuz he's football smart)) but Favre wins hands down. He's vindictive, callous, but overalll a HUGE team player who WINS!!

Go Brett. He just does it 17/18 years is all (with that shitty 4-12 Shermy campaign to salt it up) Get used to being without him as I never get the feeling (or results) in Arod's campaign...I like him, but Damn NEVER EVER get the feeling we WILL win with him late (takes no chances EVER). Stats are whoreish...

Brettt will go down as one of the top 5 QB's, but if he wins at 39 a SuperBowl and damn if I ain't rooting for him, as maybe the best clutch QB EVER (as Montana had a D and O weapons)...how does Brett do it at his age with a new team/system? No one knows? STATS are good, but fuck it, I sitll love watching that mofo.

[bobblehead]

Re: Q

I'm glad we got Arod for many years, and/but haven't been stirring it up but this proves Brett makes a winner (13-3 last year vs. 5-6 this year with the Pack) or (4-12 last year and NEVER sniffing success to 8-3 and many votegetters choice as the team to beat in the AFC currently):

I think one losing season in his career proves that brett makes a winner. I think the revamped jets prove no such thing. Pennington went to Miami and they are winning games after being worst in the NFL.

I've said all along that ARod will not likely ever be Brett....so what? Big fucking deal. Brett retired, then he wanted to play for minnesota. Then he didn't know what he wanted. He was pissed that he was held accountable. He acted like a 5 year old. Big deal he is better than Arod right now and that arod won't likely have the career brett did. Next year Brett will likely be retired, or not, or will, or not, or will. But he definately is on his last legs. 3 years from now brett will certainly not win as many games as arod (being he will retire). The time to make a change was now, before bretts little act infected an entire organization.

Everyone is jumping off a cliff because our DL has been pretty shitty, so don't tell me brett would have won us a superbowl this season either.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I think everyone forgets the most important thing to look at when comparing these two. Favre is a first ballot hall-of-famer with 3 MVPs, and 17 years of "game" experienece, of course he has the "IT" factor. Rodgers is essentially a first year starter with 11 games of experience, and so far to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Favre and quaterback is an accomplishment. I also have no doubt Rodgers will have a good career, certainly a couple of probowls. The debate of these two being on the same level at this point in time is completely asinine.

That being said, I miss the weekly updates for QB ratings between the two and the NFC North QB race as well(think Rastak just missed it this week), even though the numbers essentially mean nothing when you don't factor in all the other variables.

[Rastak]

I think everyone forgets the most important thing to look at when comparing these two. Favre is a first ballot hall-of-famer with 3 MVPs, and 17 years of "game" experienece, of course he has the "IT" factor. Rodgers is essentially a first year starter with 11 games of experience, and so far to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Favre and quaterback is an accomplishment. I also have no doubt Rodgers will have a good career, certainly a couple of probowls. The debate of these two being on the same level at this point in time is completely asinine.

That being said, I miss the weekly updates for QB ratings between the two and the NFC North QB race as well(think Rastak just missed it this week), even though the numbers essentially mean nothing when you don't factor in all the other variables.

opps, sorry......I'll get on it right away.

[Oldwis]

Re: Q

I've said all along that ARod will not likely ever be Brett....so what? Big fucking deal.

The main difference between the young Brett and the young Aaron is personality. Brett was fun, gutsy, emotional. Aaron is cold, private and has a permanent sneer. Aaron brings no personal chemistry to GB and I predict he will be gone in a couple years. You win with leadership and heart; not with technique by itself.

Cordially,

Old Wis

[cpk1994]

Re: Q

I've said all along that ARod will not likely ever be Brett....so what? Big fucking deal.

The main difference between the young Brett and the young Aaron is personality. Brett was fun, gutsy, emotional. Aaron is cold, private and has a permanent sneer. Aaron brings no personal chemistry to GB and I predict he will be gone in a couple years. You win with leadership and heart; not with technique by itself.

Cordially,

Old Wis

HOw do you knjow. Have you been in the locker room? From all comments, it is the exact opposite from Aaron. He has good chemistry with his teamates, especially the younger ones.

[denverYooper]

Re: Q

I've said all along that ARod will not likely ever be Brett....so what? Big fucking deal.

The main difference between the young Brett and the young Aaron is personality. Brett was fun, gutsy, emotional. Aaron is cold, private and has a permanent sneer. Aaron brings no personal chemistry to GB and I predict he will be gone in a couple years. You win with leadership and heart; not with technique by itself.

Cordially,

Old Wis

Jeez dude, you make him sound like an old timey villain with that permanent sneer.

I saw a pretty gutsy endzone dive last week.