Cleft, how soon do you think the Packers will lock up Rodgers long-term?
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If their philosophy runs true to form, they will sign him up sooner than later. And they need to give him a good deal (and he knows it), since he is their only reasonable option right now. Unless they really do believe that his success is because of 'the system'Originally posted by BF4MVPCleft, how soon do you think the Packers will lock up Rodgers long-term?
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Hey Cleft,
I have been looking forward to this season wondering what the personality of this team will be.
So far, I am pleasantly surprised to find that Aaron Rodgers is mobile and composed, that the offense throws personnel packages into the game so rapidly that defenses struggle to match up, and that the defense plays like Rocky boxes. By the last point I mean that Rocky always got beat up quite a bit before he busted a guy's jaw and then took some more shots to the face and let the other guy back into the fight before finally knocking him out with a flurry of concussive blows.
So...my question is...did you like Rocky III or Rocky IV better?[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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But isn't it also a dangerous thing to abandon something that doesn't work like Mike Sherman always did?Originally posted by Cleft CrustyGot pretty conservative, didn't it? Sometimes, and this is just a minor observation (as I don't like to question play-calling), but it seems as though McCarthy is pretty stubborn about game plan. If he thinks they should be able to run the ball (or pass it), by God they are going to do it - even if it doesn't work. It can be a dangerous thing to be stubborn.Originally posted by BallHawkWhat'd you think of McCarthy's playcalling in the 2nd half? It seemed lackluster compared to the 1st half.
What do you think needs to be done with this OL? They are committing way too many penalties.
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Actually, he's 31 and 83 now.
Cleft, now that you're retired, have you and Matt Millen ever consummated your butt boy love?
Who's a better GM, Matt Millen or Al Davis?
What's a better stock to buy now? Ford Inc. or Millen Inc.
"Quitters never win and winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots."


more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!
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I give Matt Millen the nod. At least he has control of all his faculties.Originally posted by motifeActually, he's 31 and 83 now.
Cleft, now that you're retired, have you and Matt Millen ever consummated you butt boy love?
Who's a better GM, Matt Millen or Al Davis?
What's a better stock to buy now? Ford Inc. or Millen Inc.
"Quitters never win and winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots."
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Re: Post game chat with Cleft Crusty (at Detroit)
Did you get this idea from the old episode of Gilligan's Island when getting conked on the head again fixed Gilligan's memory?Originally posted by Cleft CrustyHi Folks,
Now two wrongs usually don't make a right, but doggone it if that electrocution didn't stop the fibrillation! Long story short: Crusty is alive, the electric is on generator back-up and it's time for questions. Fire away.
Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
Vince Lombardi
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As the answer to the first question or the second one? :POriginally posted by cpk1994I give Matt Millen the nod. At least he has control of all his faculties.Originally posted by motifeActually, he's 31 and 83 now.
Cleft, now that you're retired, have you and Matt Millen ever consummated you butt boy love?
Who's a better GM, Matt Millen or Al Davis?
What's a better stock to buy now? Ford Inc. or Millen Inc.
"Quitters never win and winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots."Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
Vince Lombardi
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I meant the second one but using it to answer the first is even funnier!Originally posted by BadgerinmaineAs the answer to the first question or the second one? :POriginally posted by cpk1994I give Matt Millen the nod. At least he has control of all his faculties.Originally posted by motifeActually, he's 31 and 83 now.
Cleft, now that you're retired, have you and Matt Millen ever consummated you butt boy love?
Who's a better GM, Matt Millen or Al Davis?
What's a better stock to buy now? Ford Inc. or Millen Inc.
"Quitters never win and winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots."
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Sorry for the long delay folks. WE have power out here and I'm running off the generator. The wife seems to think the generator should be used for things like the refrigerator and freezer, and lights for the kids to do their homework. Clefty had to unplug the DirecTV, the internet, and the beer cooler. Priorities! At least my breathing machine for my sleep apnea is workingOriginally posted by motife
Actually, he's 31 and 83 now.
Cleft, now that you're retired, have you and Matt Millen ever consummated your butt boy love?
Who's a better GM, Matt Millen or Al Davis?
What's a better stock to buy now? Ford Inc. or Millen Inc.
"Quitters never win and winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots."
Well Motife,
Recall that my support for Millen was simply that he should be discounted from being a GM because he 'didn't come up the correct way.' But the proof is in the pudding as they say, and 'Ole Crusty appears to be totally wrong about Millen. Why should the Lions be satisfied with a coach Mike Holmgren cast off 7 years ago? Plus, as you saw yesterday, he has a terrible tendency to melt down. Wow, was that ugly football there at the end!
Crusty thinks that the Lions, Like Ford and GM, may have to go get a government loan to sign some players.
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I'm a little confused by the question. I thought there was just one Rocky, played by Sylvester Stallone. I like the Rocky movie where Rocky loses at the end. It was gritty and realistic. It seems though that you are suggesting there was more than one Rocky movie. Is this true?Originally posted by swedeHey Cleft,
I have been looking forward to this season wondering what the personality of this team will be.
So far, I am pleasantly surprised to find that Aaron Rodgers is mobile and composed, that the offense throws personnel packages into the game so rapidly that defenses struggle to match up, and that the defense plays like Rocky boxes. By the last point I mean that Rocky always got beat up quite a bit before he busted a guy's jaw and then took some more shots to the face and let the other guy back into the fight before finally knocking him out with a flurry of concussive blows.
So...my question is...did you like Rocky III or Rocky IV better?
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Abandon? No - and I don't think Sherman did much abandoning. Balance is the key. But again, it's playcalling - so Rodgers may have called the exact correct adjustment and McCarthy may have called the exact right plays for every down and distance - but the players didn't execute. That's always hard to tell...Originally posted by cpk1994But isn't it also a dangerous thing to abandon something that doesn't work like Mike Sherman always did?Originally posted by Cleft CrustyGot pretty conservative, didn't it? Sometimes, and this is just a minor observation (as I don't like to question play-calling), but it seems as though McCarthy is pretty stubborn about game plan. If he thinks they should be able to run the ball (or pass it), by God they are going to do it - even if it doesn't work. It can be a dangerous thing to be stubborn.Originally posted by BallHawkWhat'd you think of McCarthy's playcalling in the 2nd half? It seemed lackluster compared to the 1st half.
What do you think needs to be done with this OL? They are committing way too many penalties.
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Re: Post game chat with Cleft Crusty (at Detroit)
No I didn't, but it's certainly gratifying that the folks think Crusty is as inventive as the script writers for a 70s TV show.Originally posted by BadgerinmaineDid you get this idea from the old episode of Gilligan's Island when getting conked on the head again fixed Gilligan's memory?Originally posted by Cleft CrustyHi Folks,
Now two wrongs usually don't make a right, but doggone it if that electrocution didn't stop the fibrillation! Long story short: Crusty is alive, the electric is on generator back-up and it's time for questions. Fire away.

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