Open QB comptetition who would have won

[AV David]

I am pleasantly surprised at the rapid success A Rod has had so far. I am not at all surprised at the level of success, only the speed with which it came.

The real reason #4 was not asked back was it would have cast SUBSTANTIAL doubt wheteher is would have cost A Rod. (especially of #4 came back for 2 years.)

If you think you have a young, talented quarterback who can win in the NFL, you cannot lose him trying to eke out another year or two from an aged veteran, even if the aged veteran is Brett Favre.

Those of us who remember the darkness of the 70s and 80s know how difficult it is to find a really good quarterback. (Remember heir apparent Carlos Brown?) (Guaranteed trivia winner: Carlos Brown changed his name and was the character "Bubba" on the TV series "Heat of the Night".)

The trade off to this unpleasantness was not just this year. It was for the next 10-12 years. I will take A Rod. I will still take A Rod when he struggles here and there.

[dissident94]

My big worry was if you have a team ready to contend you should always go with the verteran. To me it was logical to go with Favre. It had nothing to do with emotion but what I thought was the right football move. Now it seems the right move maybe was to go with the young guy.

If Rodger keeps playing like this TT is going to go down as one of the greatest GMs in history. THe balls it took to do what he has done and if it continues to succed is crazy.

[vince]

If Rodger keeps playing like this TT is going to go down as one of the greatest GMs in history. THe balls it took to do what he has done and if it continues to succed is crazy.

That there's signature worthy...

[gioreeko]

I was just thinking the same thing today, Rodgers would have won easily. You can really see the difference in Favre right now that he skipped the off season conditioning. At his age, you have to work twice as hard to stay quick and strong. Too bad we couldn't get a "Hadl" like deal with some team, like the Pack did in the 70's, basically screwing themselves out of tons of draft picks for an aging, past his prime QB......

[AV David]

"... Too bad we couldn't get a "Hadl" like deal with some team, like the Pack did in the 70's, basically screwing themselves out of tons of draft picks for an aging, past his prime QB......"


If I recall correctly, the Hadl trade was made during the season. My Dad took me to the first game Hadl played as a Packer. Hadl was running for his life the entire game. He was constantly throwing kind of side arm as he was running from the pocket because three guys were him chasing him. I knew we were screwed by halftime. He looked sooooooooo old.

[gioreeko]

Re: Open QB comptetition who would have won

I do not post much but I was a big supporter of Favre and thought TT was an idiot. Well through the first two games I guess I am maybe the idiot. No surprise.

Anyway if they ever did have that competition it is looking more and more that Rodgers could have (would have) beat Favre out. Its early and I remember Dilweg winnning NFC player of the week so it can go down hill but Rodgers looks great. He did underthrow Jennings on that one deep ball. BUt on the monday night game that long ball to Jennings went 65 yards in the air. That was a wow moment.

We have been spoiled for years with good qb play and it looks like it may continue

I'm watching Nfl live right now, and that "underthrown" pass was 60 yards in the air after rolling out to the right, hell of a throw!

[Guiness]

A QB competition would have been a mess. And impossible to judge - like tbp said, what're you going to do, throw blitzes and stuff at them?

All you could do is let them get their reps, and try to judge. But even then you're really playing a bit of blind baseball if you choose Rodgers, because you KNOW Favre can do it in the NFL, but you don't actually know with Rodgers until he gets some actual game time. We have a much better idea now, after a couple of real contests, but wouldn't have had that information this preseason.

[DannoMac21]

Re: Open QB comptetition who would have won

I do not post much but I was a big supporter of Favre and thought TT was an idiot. Well through the first two games I guess I am maybe the idiot. No surprise.

Anyway if they ever did have that competition it is looking more and more that Rodgers could have (would have) beat Favre out. Its early and I remember Dilweg winnning NFC player of the week so it can go down hill but Rodgers looks great. He did underthrow Jennings on that one deep ball. BUt on the monday night game that long ball to Jennings went 65 yards in the air. That was a wow moment.

We have been spoiled for years with good qb play and it looks like it may continue

Paco and MOBB DEEP really need to learn from you...

[Pacopete4]

Re: Open QB comptetition who would have won

I do not post much but I was a big supporter of Favre and thought TT was an idiot. Well through the first two games I guess I am maybe the idiot. No surprise.

Anyway if they ever did have that competition it is looking more and more that Rodgers could have (would have) beat Favre out. Its early and I remember Dilweg winnning NFC player of the week so it can go down hill but Rodgers looks great. He did underthrow Jennings on that one deep ball. BUt on the monday night game that long ball to Jennings went 65 yards in the air. That was a wow moment.

We have been spoiled for years with good qb play and it looks like it may continue

Paco and MOBB DEEP really need to learn from you...

Why's that?... I still think TT is a fuckin snake and didn't handle the situation at all well... my stance will not change, specially after 2 games

[mission]

Re: Open QB comptetition who would have won

I do not post much but I was a big supporter of Favre and thought TT was an idiot. Well through the first two games I guess I am maybe the idiot. No surprise.

Anyway if they ever did have that competition it is looking more and more that Rodgers could have (would have) beat Favre out. Its early and I remember Dilweg winnning NFC player of the week so it can go down hill but Rodgers looks great. He did underthrow Jennings on that one deep ball. BUt on the monday night game that long ball to Jennings went 65 yards in the air. That was a wow moment.

We have been spoiled for years with good qb play and it looks like it may continue

Paco and MOBB DEEP really need to learn from you...

Why's that?... I still think TT is a fuckin snake and didn't handle the situation at all well... my stance will not change, specially after 2 games

Based on THAT logic, your stance should never change. Even if we go undefeated and win the Super Bowl. Results are irrelevant.

Your main problem is with how the situation was handled. How should he have handled it differently? Let Brett come back? It's a pretty damned if you do and damned if you don't situation, but I'd just love to know how your business acumen would lend to a better handling of that situation. Honest question. What would have satisfied you?

If TT is a snake then so is Jack Welch, Donald Trump, Dale Carnegie, John C Maxwell and every other business leader who's had to make unpopular decisions for the betterment of his organization.

Nice guys finish last. Tough guys win ball games and have billion dollar corporations.

[cpk1994]

Re: Open QB comptetition who would have won

I do not post much but I was a big supporter of Favre and thought TT was an idiot. Well through the first two games I guess I am maybe the idiot. No surprise.

Anyway if they ever did have that competition it is looking more and more that Rodgers could have (would have) beat Favre out. Its early and I remember Dilweg winnning NFC player of the week so it can go down hill but Rodgers looks great. He did underthrow Jennings on that one deep ball. BUt on the monday night game that long ball to Jennings went 65 yards in the air. That was a wow moment.

We have been spoiled for years with good qb play and it looks like it may continue

Paco and MOBB DEEP really need to learn from you...

Why's that?... I still think TT is a fuckin snake and didn't handle the situation at all well... my stance will not change, specially after 2 games

Based on THAT logic, your stance should never change. Even if we go undefeated and win the Super Bowl. Results are irrelevant.

Your main problem is with how the situation was handled. How should he have handled it differently? Let Brett come back? It's a pretty damned if you do and damned if you don't situation, but I'd just love to know how your business acumen would lend to a better handling of that situation. Honest question. What would have satisfied you?

If TT is a snake then so is Jack Welch, Donald Trump, Dale Carnegie, John C Maxwell and every other business leader who's had to make unpopular decisions for the betterment of his organization.

Nice guys finish last. Tough guys win ball games and have billion dollar corporations.

Letting Favre come back after all the stunts and BS he pulled would have insured that ARod leaves at the first opportunity. Then when Brett really retires you have nothing and you wasted the 3-4 years you were preping ARod. I continue to stand and applaud the Packers GM, TT, for putting the TEAM first, and not allowing anyone one player to be put above it.

[Zool]

Seriously, can we end this line of discussion already? Its really fucking old.

[boiga]

Seriously, can we end this line of discussion already? Its really fucking old.

Agreed. It's enough to have that damn Favre/Rodgers comparison chart put up by the booth announcers every game. Our quarterback, Rodgers, is doing a great job so far making all Packers fans happy.

Let's put the summer behind us.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Open QB comptetition who would have won

I'm watching Nfl live right now, and that "underthrown" pass was 60 yards in the air after rolling out to the right, hell of a throw!

What I noticed with the throw is that he didn't put all he could into it. It was more of a line drive and he didn't drill it in there. I think he saw how wide open Jennings was, so he didn't want to get a lot of air under it--to give the safety a chance to make a play. Since it was 60 yards downfield, it wasn't an easy one to laser in there either. Not a great throw, but good enough to get the completion.

[Scott Campbell]

I now choose to abstain because it has entered This Thread Blows territory.