The mishandling of snaps is getting to be a weekly thing. It's about to the poitn of completely unacceptable.
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I agree with several posters who pointed out that the Cowboys were simply a much stronger team on both sides of the ball.
We have to remember this is just the third game of a 16 game season. There is time for to players to correct mistakes and develop by the end of the season.
The Packers are still on top of the NFC-North division. They need to focus especially on winning their division games.
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The Packers played as well as they could.
Dallas has a much better O-line. The Packers O-line is good but the Cowboys is great.
They took care of KGB, Jolly, and Ryan Pickett pretty well. They were able to keep Kampmann from dominating. Controlling the line of scrimmage leads to success.
Wells and Sitton are going to be back in the line up soon.
Ryan Grant like most holdouts got injured. The Packers should bench him until his health improves.
As a big Rouse booster, I know realize why he is not a starter and shut up on the subject.
Jordy Nelson is a great prospect. Jordy Nelson is an inexperienced rookie.
Aaron Rodgers continues to learn and improve.
If the lineups remain the same the Packers will lose to the Cowboys if they play again this season.
The Packers didn't make too many mistakes so don't blame the loss on them.
The big difference between the teams was the O-lines and the running game.
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Your right we need to focus on winning the division, but a loss to the cowturds really sucks. I hate that team. I was hoping for a trend where we start beating them all the time.Originally posted by oregonpackfanI agree with several posters who pointed out that the Cowboys were simply a much stronger team on both sides of the ball.
We have to remember this is just the third game of a 16 game season. There is time for to players to correct mistakes and develop by the end of the season.
The Packers are still on top of the NFC-North division. They need to focus especially on winning their division games.
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Originally posted by Pacopete4Arod showed he's a rookie in the sense of playing time..
As someone else noted, there were many problems, but ARod was not one of them. I was impressed by the fact he didn't make any of the boneheaded throws that we've seen over the years despite the constant pressure. He did all he could. Can't say the same for many of the others.
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Spitz is still new to the center position. He started playing it as a starter halfway through camp.Originally posted by JustinHarrellThe mishandling of snaps is getting to be a weekly thing. It's about to the poitn of completely unacceptable.
While I agree that the Cowboys, esp on the line, are ahead of the Packers, I still don't think they are 27-16 as visitors better. I think scheme and execution were a bigger problem than just personnel matchups. We ran the ball effectively although not for huge plays.
And our passing game was quite mediocre. Though it did produce some big plays, it could never get into the back of the endzone.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Having thought a bit more about the game this morning, I don't think we should make too many conclusions from one game. I wonder what we would think of the relative overall strengths and weaknesses of New England and Miami if we had watched that game from start to finish?
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No, I think he had his share of trouble. Several times he didn't find a receiver quickly. Other times he bailed wide and ran into pressure. Several times it seemed he bailed quickly. By the fourth quarter, the Cowboys pass rush was winning, but that has as much to do with the time and score as with the O Line.Originally posted by cpk1994Originally posted by Pacopete4Arod showed he's a rookie in the sense of playing time..
As someone else noted, there were many problems, but ARod was not one of them. I was impressed by the fact he didn't make any of the boneheaded throws that we've seen over the years despite the constant pressure. He did all he could. Can't say the same for many of the others.
He was playing against a zone and not seeing the holes, or the receivers were not in the holes. When this happened he was indecisive and then the pass rush got him.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Good point. But it does give McCarthy a clinic full of film about how not to play winning football.Originally posted by PatlerHaving thought a bit more about the game this morning, I don't think we should make too many conclusions from one game. I wonder what we would think of the relative overall strengths and weaknesses of New England and Miami if we had watched that game from start to finish?
It will be interesting to see what changes this will bring. One I am worried about is Wells. Spitz provides much needed heft and run blocking. But removing Moll from the starting lineup at guard might be a greater concern. College seems to have taken a step up. Perhaps from below average to mediocre
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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You'd have to say Colledge stepped up a little. Hell, last year he got benched against Dallas as they ran him off the field. This year, he held his own. DC is a guy who improves with tiny steps each game, not all high picks can come in an get it right away. Colledge is progressing at the rate it takes most young guys to get in the swing of things.Originally posted by pbmaxGood point. But it does give McCarthy a clinic full of film about how not to play winning football.Originally posted by PatlerHaving thought a bit more about the game this morning, I don't think we should make too many conclusions from one game. I wonder what we would think of the relative overall strengths and weaknesses of New England and Miami if we had watched that game from start to finish?
It will be interesting to see what changes this will bring. One I am worried about is Wells. Spitz provides much needed heft and run blocking. But removing Moll from the starting lineup at guard might be a greater concern. College seems to have taken a step up. Perhaps from below average to mediocre
Moll is a pretty good back-up, but that's what he is... a back-up. That said, I think the OLine is in better shape than it's been in for 4 seasons.
This is a great thread. A big game against a strong opponent is a pretty accurate mirror. All our needs and weaknesses are pretty apparent to all. The second youngest team in the league is a contender that needs to improve in some crucial areas.
I was actually encouraged. When we get mature, we will be the king of the hill, like Dallas is now.
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This was where Collins left him wide open. Not the one in double coverage.Originally posted by GuinessThat's not what I saw, if you're refering to the long play to Austin. He was double covered, pretty nicely too. I'm not sure how he pulled that in.Originally posted by BrohmBig Play II - Coverage breakdown resulting in long bomb for TD.sigpic
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Exactly. The coaches I thought sucked worst of all. They just don't adjust to what is happening on the field. They are passive, you can't run the same defense over and over, you get your defense banged up. They have to attack. Mix it up, Dallas sure did and our line couldn't figure out who to block and when they did they whiffed a lot or just got manhandled. You have to take risks to beat a elite team like Dallas otherwise they are just going to slowly march up and down the field and wear out your D. The first possession Grant fumbles and Dallas gets a free 3 points. The second possession they fumbled the snap. They sucked ass on first down. GB was so predictable Dallas knew what was coming and Rodgers would not audible. Not a good start. Then Dallas forces them to go 8 in the box and Sanders will have none of that. Next thing you know the defense is on the field way too long and the offense cannot get into a rythym if the defense is on field giving up time consuming drives. I would rather see more aggressive defense. Now every starter in the defensive backfield is hurt because of that pussy Sanders. Let Dallas score quick if you have to but get 8 or 9 in the box if you have to and shut that run down.Originally posted by PartialWe didn't play to win. We played for field goals and at the end we played for experience instead of taking a shot down the field.
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