What Did We Learn Tonight?

[rbaloha1]

1. MM needs to trust AR and open up the playbook. AR was never in rhythm. What happened to the bootlegs? Also need to break tendencies by calling plays to AR's left. More outs and double moves.

2. Jordy Nelson is the #3 receiver.

3. Chillar needs to start.

4. Aaron Rouse can be a liability.

5. Hawk over pursues and gets faked out too easily.

6. Tony Moll needs to be benched. Wells needs to start again.

7. Still a playoff team and best in the NFC North.

Your thoughts Packers Nation.

[Pacopete4]

I learned that we are just not that good.. we're not a top team in the NFC right now.. I also learned that the Vikings are probably about right where we are as a football team

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: What Did We Learn Tonight?

2. Jordy Nelson is the #3 receiver.

definitely

3. Chillar needs to start.

Chillar played well, but I'm not sure he is better.

4. Aaron Rouse can be a liability.

Rouse played well, had a couple bad plays.

5. Hawk over pursues and gets faked out too easily..

HAwk was also one of the only people on the field who could tackle Barber.

6. Tony Moll needs to be benched. Wells needs to start again.

I saw only one bad play from Moll. Maybe you are right, tho.
I'd rather see Sitton than Wells, Wells is maxed out at average.

[pbmax]

Please do not criticize play calling without watching the tape. You don't know who was open, if Rodgers changed the play at the line of scrimmage or if he had a run/pass option.

Dallas played a lot of deep zone from my perspective on throwing downs (hard to be precise when they only show the ball) but that caused a lot of check downs. Might not have all been play calling.

One good sign, the running game was in gear, even if it wasn't enough by itself.

[PackerTimer]

1. MM needs to trust AR and open up the playbook. AR was never in rhythm. What happened to the bootlegs? Also need to break tendencies by calling plays to AR's left. More outs and double moves. I'm not a playcalling expert but I would like to see more committement to the run game.

2. Jordy Nelson is the #3 receiver. I think so too. Although he did make most of his plays in garbage time.

3. Chillar needs to start. He played a good game. Although Poppinga has played pretty well this year too. Chillar is definitely better in coverage

4. Aaron Rouse can be a liability. 100% agree. I saw him take a number of poor angles a few times tonight.

5. Hawk over pursues and gets faked out too easily. This is really the only part I disagree with. I thought Hawk played a good game and has probably been our best defensive player through three games.

6. Tony Moll needs to be benched. Wells needs to start again. Yes. Our best line is Clifton - College - Wells - Spitz - Tauscher. Forget Sitton and Moll, those five are the best we have.

7. Still a playoff team and best in the NFC North. Yes. Still have a lot of time to get better as well. If you would have told me were 2-1 and coming out of these first three, I would have taken it. Disappointing loss but a solid start to the season so far.

[RashanGary]

Re: What Did We Learn Tonight?

1. MM needs to trust AR and open up the playbook. AR was never in rhythm. What happened to the bootlegs? Also need to break tendencies by calling plays to AR's left. More outs and double moves.

Don't know what happened there

2. Jordy Nelson is the #3 receiver.

He looked really good

3. Chillar needs to start.

Don't know. Poppinga has done a nice job this year. This was a good team to play Chillar against though.

4. Aaron Rouse can be a liability.

I don't think I like Rouse.

5. Hawk over pursues and gets faked out too easily.

I didn't have a problem with Hawk

6. Tony Moll needs to be benched. Wells needs to start again.

He had some bad moments, but so did Colledge, Tauscher and Clifton

7. Still a playoff team and best in the NFC North.

Don't know for sure, but after three games they look to be good enough to win it but not a sure thing

Your thoughts Packers Nation.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I learned that we are just not that good.. we're not a top team in the NFC right now.. I also learned that the Vikings are probably about right where we are as a football team

Chicken Little again. Dallas is probably the best team in the league right now, but it's a long season. I'd have to believe the OL will be better at the end of the season than now. I'd have to believe Rodgers will be better the more he sees a 3-4 defense. Hopefully, the guys in the secondary aren't banged up too much.

[Pacopete4]

I learned that we are just not that good.. we're not a top team in the NFC right now.. I also learned that the Vikings are probably about right where we are as a football team

Chicken Little again. Dallas is probably the best team in the league right now, but it's a long season. I'd have to believe the OL will be better at the end of the season than now. I'd have to believe Rodgers will be better the more he sees a 3-4 defense. Hopefully, the guys in the secondary aren't banged up too much.

Chicken Little? haha I predicted 8-8/9-7 before the season and thats right where they'll be IMO... Dallas is way better than us and I think with solid QB play from the Vikes they will be sticking right on our hip the rest of the way out... I'm not sure how thats chicken little or just realistic

[PackerTimer]

I learned that we are just not that good.. we're not a top team in the NFC right now.. I also learned that the Vikings are probably about right where we are as a football team

Chicken Little again. Dallas is probably the best team in the league right now, but it's a long season. I'd have to believe the OL will be better at the end of the season than now. I'd have to believe Rodgers will be better the more he sees a 3-4 defense. Hopefully, the guys in the secondary aren't banged up too much.

Chicken Little? haha I predicted 8-8/9-7 before the season and thats right where they'll be IMO... Dallas is way better than us and I think with solid QB play from the Vikes they will be sticking right on our hip the rest of the way out... I'm not sure how thats chicken little or just realistic

I thought 10-6 and that's what I still think. They are exaclty where I thought they would be after 3 games.

[mission]

Jennings is a man among boys out there.

Hawk played OK but you guys must have missed the 4-5 plays where he completely overpursued the run on those misdirection plays. Barbers TD he just kinda froze in the hole at the goal line.. for what? to catch him and carry him into the end zone ? we gotta be filling hard

Williams can't tackle at all. He's always flying through the air trying to lay it on someone.

Rouse takes horrible angles. Hasn't compensated for his lack of speed.

We hold way too fuckin much.

3-4 makes A-Rod passive. Had the same look on his face tonight as he had against the Niners preseason.

We'll be OK but we're not there yet.

I'm sticking to 11-5 .. .

8-8, 9-7 we are not ...

[privatepacker]

The Cowboys had a short week and were clearly a little out of synch w/ the pasing game. That being said their lines just beat the Pack every which way they could. The score at the half was closer then it should have been.
The punting and return games were very disappointing as well. Even when they were pinned at their 20 they changed the field w/ a 65 yard punt. That in itself would be bad but to only get a 5 yard return was terrible.
Green Bay needed to play loose and w/o fear. They did neither.

[gbgary]

a little less shotgun would help both the run and passing game.

we need a kick-ass tight end.

one more thing...no more primetime games...ever. we suck when the whole country is watching.

[texaspackerbacker]

I DON'T think we need more of a commitment to the run; We need less.

Unleashing /having more confidence in Rodgers, as somebody said, is what we need. On that last drive, the Cowboys were NOT playing a prevent defense. They were playing to shut down the short and medium passing game. Yet Rodgers was able to move the team down the field anyway. More of that and mixing in the run occasionally is what we need. That way, you make first downs, and when you do give Grant the ball, you have a lot better hope of breaking a big gainer.

Also, NOT less shotgun, but more--and using Grant with Rodgers in the shotgun too.

[Noodle]

If we're going to run shotgun so much, we've got to get either a screen game (not seen around here since Ahman left) or get a little gimmicky with direct snaps to the back, like the Dolphins did to the Pats. Something, anything to keep the D a little honest for cripes sake.

I especially hate going gun on 3rd and short (4 or less) situations -- they know we aren't running, and they just killed us.

[CaliforniaCheez]

As a famous Packer coach once said. "It all comes down to blocking and tackling. It isn't brain surgery out there."


The Cowboys had the bigger better blocking Offensive Line.

The Packer O-line wasn't as good as the Cowboys.

There isn't much further analysis needed because it is all secondary to the differences in the quality of the O-lines.