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I think it's entirely plausible that we are 1-2 with Favre. Not the Favre that is playing for the Jets right now. I don't think we'd be 3-0 with Favre. We might be 2-1. Not starting a flame war, but that's honestly how I feel.Originally posted by BretskyWe'd have the same record with either QB."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Madden sort of suggested it was the latter. He often commented that no one was open; and frequently mentioned that the Packers only had 3 receivers out on a play while Dallas had 6 DBs in the game.Originally posted by Partial
He played ok, but I have to wonder if it was him not reading and reacting fast enough or dallas having lights out coverage. I tend to believe the former as I don't think much of Dallas' secondary.
I think the real problems were that the Cowboys were getting very good pressure rushing just 4 or 5 guys, leaving 6 in coverage, they worried nothing about the Packer running game, and the Packers played the game with only 3 wide receivers after Jones was hurt. I really think Rodgers had no where to go with the ball. The few replays they showed seemed to confirm that.
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I just love that Rodgers can get out of the pocket and I think he did help out the O line a little last night by moving around but we have to do better about giving him a pocket because man that kid can launch a ball!Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Agreed entirely.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersI think it's entirely plausible that we are 1-2 with Favre. Not the Favre that is playing for the Jets right now. I don't think we'd be 3-0 with Favre. We might be 2-1. Not starting a flame war, but that's honestly how I feel.</delurk>
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Oh yes sorry.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersFOX didn't have the game last night. NBC did.Originally posted by 3irty1I agree but the worse coverage last night was by FOX.
Now that I think about it NBC is probably giving crappy shots of the field on purpose so I'll do that thing on their website with all the extra cameras.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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QFT...that is really all there is to say.Originally posted by BF4MVPAgreed. It's a long season, but right now, the Cowboys are just better.Originally posted by BretskyWe'd have the same record with either QB.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Add 5 TD's and we win this fricking game going away.Originally posted by MadtownPackerMy vote for most ridiculous post this season.Originally posted by LL2Add 2 TD's to his stats and the Packers would've won and his stats would've looked really nice.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I think this is right. It was a combination of factors. The recievers weren't getting separation. Rodgers was throwing a little sooner than he wanted to. Balls were sailing a little high or wide, off of finger tips, the timing was off.Originally posted by PatlerI think the real problems were that the Cowboys were getting very good pressure rushing just 4 or 5 guys, leaving 6 in coverage, they worried nothing about the Packer running game, and the Packers played the game with only 3 wide receivers after Jones was hurt. I really think Rodgers had no where to go with the ball. The few replays they showed seemed to confirm that.
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completely disagreeOriginally posted by HarveyWallbangersI think it's entirely plausible that we are 1-2 with Favre. Not the Favre that is playing for the Jets right now. I don't think we'd be 3-0 with Favre. We might be 2-1. Not starting a flame war, but that's honestly how I feel.Originally posted by BretskyWe'd have the same record with either QB.
I was talking to a buddy that felt if we had BF last night we'd still have lost but we would have scored more points. He argued we'd have taken more chances and we'd probably have given up a pick but thrown two TD's. It's all risk reward.
I don't remember too many games Favre gave away last year when we were the superior team. He's played quite well versus MN the past few years.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Favre aside, because it's going to be a never ending debate all season as long as both play well...Originally posted by LL2Granted he didn't produce the TD's I was hoping for, he didn't total lose the game. Most importantly he didn't throw any bone headed INT's as Favre usually did. Add 2 TD's to his stats and the Packers would've won and his stats would've looked really nice. Hopefully if they meet in the playoffs the he can produce more scores.
Your putting some blinders on, as are most, to last night. Rodgers did not play well. Not in the least bit. Sure, he completed over 50% of his passes. Yeah, he had 290 yards. Guess what, he put a grand total of zero points on the board. (qb sneak late doesn't count when they aren't even trying anymore up three scores with two minutes to go. Besides, that drive was again set up by a defensive turnover)
So, a QB fails to get into the endzone. Fails really to drive the field (save what, one drive) and suddenly he played a really great game, and just didn't have the points to show for it? Lets see.
On third down, he misfired 6 times. On any pass to the right side (save the driver play wide open) that was over 10 yards, he threw it 5-8 yards over everyone's head. In fact, all his completions were dump off style plays that netted very little. Take away the deep play to driver, and suddenly his stats start to look horrid. Add in that a third of his passing yards and a 4th of his completions came on his 2nd to last time with the football down three scores with 3 minutes to go with dallas playing 10 yards off the wr's and Rodger's just doing 5 yard dump offs all the way down the field... you start to get a good picture.
Yes, he didn't make any "boneheaded' throws (although, if you watch again, he did throw two balls that nailed dallas defenders right in the hands and they dropped them), however he also didn't make any significant plays to help us win.
In fact, with all the throwing we were doing - one could blame Rodger's for the defense being on the field the entire second half.
I am not saying Favre wins us the game either, as he has always sucked verse dallas, but I am saying that Rodger's did not play well last night, and is 0-2 in late game situations with a chance to take the lead or tie (late game situations involving anything in the 4th quarter). In this case, Anything with 9 minutes or less to go in the game.
Oh, and for those wishing to use this game, and last year's dallas game, as proof he is a better option then Favre - Guess what, Rodgers hasn't beaten dallas yet. 0 -2 with the game on the line against them. Sorry, but we lost last night,a nd Rodgers was a big reason our offense weas stagnent. I don't care if you want to blame the line - he had time in the pocket (over three seconds per pass attempt) and didn't find/throw the ball to anyone.
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