AL HARRIS OUT FOR SEASON?!!?!?!

[3irty1]

To reply to everyone at once:

Jim Bates was a genius compared to Bob Sanders.

Al Harris physically not as good as Williams? He might not run like Dion Sanders but 31 is a specimen in his own right. He has freakish strength and until now has been remarkably durable.

Like many already. Players will just have to step up. On the youngest team in the league this is supposed to happen. Williams, Blackmon, and Lee all have enough potential to become our new heroes this year.

[Freak Out]

The spleen is a nice little organ to have and I hope Al gets to keep his. Get well soon Al.

[Dabaddestbear]

Well although Al Harris is the Packer I hated the most because he always bragged how good he was no matter how many times he was getting burned deep for a td. I still never wish such an injury on anyone.
And as far as those that imply he could probably come back for the playoffs is nothing short of ridiculous. There is no way you come back from getting your spleen removed and play that same season-- Not in the NFL!

I can say the Packers were pretty blessed last year avoiding all the injuries as other teams piled them up. But trust me, no one will shed a tear for you or even mention the reason for a bad season as a result of your injuries. Us Bear fans no it better than anyone last year. We had several of our "Pro BOWL STARTERS" out with injuries for most, if not pretty much the entire season, but all you would hear is how bad the team was. Not how bad the team was without its pro-bowlers. So just imagine how they will ignore the fact of solid role players on the Packers being injured....crickets will chirp.

Good luck with Tampa this Sunday........well not really..lol.

[KYPack]

Dabaddestbear & Gunshooter are giving me a headache.

[pbmax]

Relax? Sanders just screwed up a legit contender and Al Harris can't hear me, nor does he care what the hell I say, if his spleen is ruptured he is going on IR. What Al and Sanders forgot about was Dallas intention of beating the living crap out of the defense with Barber. You can not allow that even if it costs you the game. This is not the playoffs where you have all season to recover. They have to play Tampa in 6 days and they are going to lose that one two.

If 9 in the box is so nutty why did Dallas do exactly that? I saw them do it on first down, 6 down lineman on GB's 20 and they stuffed Grant for no gain. Even Fritz Shurmer wasn't as stubborn as Sanders is.

One loss makes you a pretender? So the Eagles, Steelers and Patriots are pretending? Please just stop shouting.

And I am glad you can read the Dallas coaches minds. Perhaps you could offer that valuable service to the Packers front office? Because with my non Super Hero powers, all I could remember was Tony Romo passing Dallas to a lead with TO as the dagger last year in Irving, TX. Sanders scheme helped keep the Packers in it. The Cowboys so far this year have scored 28, 41 and 27 points. Which result would you rather compete with?

Dallas scored more points against a Belicheck defense (Cleve) and the vaunted Jim Johnson pressure defense (Eagles). I don't think your schemes are better than any of these options.

If you want to vent spleen, vent it at the offense, at Rodgers and the O Line for failing to execute and provide their defense with a close game and time of possession. For me, I believe that the O Line is getting better and Rodgers will learn from this. That is what can happen with young players.

Erik Williams was abused by Reggie White when he was a rookie. Williams went on to become Reggie's toughest opponent. Dallas is already at their peak, like Reggie. We are learning, like Williams. I still like our chances.

[run pMc]

If Harris has ANY issues with his spleen, I'm not worried about him for this season...but NEXt season. A spleen injury means he's done for this season. It took Simms almost 2 seasons to recover from having his spleen removed, and he's a younger guy than Al.

As for the D plan vs. DAL...I don't think it was a bad scheme. Double TO & Witten and hope your front 7 can handle the rest. A bit optimistic, but in theory better than getting burned by the big pass play. DAL has a huge OL and tons of offensive firepower. I don't think GB is quite in their class -- yet. But I don't think GB got embarrassed, either.

[KYPack]

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If you want to vent spleen, vent it at the offense, at Rodgers and the O Line for failing to execute and provide their defense with a close game and time of possession. For me, I believe that the O Line is getting better and Rodgers will learn from this. That is what can happen with young players.

Erik Williams was abused by Reggie White when he was a rookie. Williams went on to become Reggie's toughest opponent. Dallas is already at their peak, like Reggie. We are learning, like Williams. I still like our chances.

I take it the spleen reference was an ironic comment?

Gun, read what PB posts. The big plays weren't scheme or wrong grouping errors. Players made mistakes and Romo and the Boyz gashed 'em when they did.

Most of the time, it ain't the X's and the O's, it's the Jims and the Joes. Players are human and they err. When you screw up in a big game, you get burned. We got ours in that game. As the players in the scheme mature, we will improve. We are the second youngest team in the NFL and have all that talent around. We will get better, Dallas is at it's peak right now.

Bear, I made a mistake, too.

I fed a troll. I'll try to correct that foollish error for the rest of the year.

[Patler]

That's what happens when you don't allow your defense to be the aggressor. You stay on the field too long and get the shit pounded out of you. Now GB is in trouble because frankly, their secondary is shit. TW and the rest of them don't even belong in the league. Maybe ass wipe Sanders will now learn that the first duty is to stop the run AT ALL COSTS! If they score quick, so what, you live to fight another day.

Relax? Sanders just screwed up a legit contender and Al Harris can't hear me, nor does he care what the hell I say, if his spleen is ruptured he is going on IR. What Al and Sanders forgot about was Dallas intention of beating the living crap out of the defense with Barber. You can not allow that even if it costs you the game. This is not the playoffs where you have all season to recover. They have to play Tampa in 6 days and they are going to lose that one two.

Are you suggesting that the defensive game plan caused Harris to be injured? That Sanders was responsible for Harris rupturing his spleen? That the game plan for the defense should somehow protect the cornerbacks from having to tackle a running back, even if it costs the game?

Am I misreading this?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yeah, strange comment--especially since it appears that Harris got injured by running into A.J. Hawk while trying to cover an underneath route.

[Scott Campbell]

Us Bear fans no it better than anyone last year. We had several of our "Pro BOWL STARTERS" out with injuries for most, if not pretty much the entire season, but all you would hear is how bad the team was. Not how bad the team was without its pro-bowlers.

And now that your squad is all healed up, the Bears are...........1-2.

[Scott Campbell]

You guys are nuts. Can we please just find a way to blame Mike Sherman for Al's spleen injury?

[MadtownPacker]

Yeah, strange comment--especially since it appears that Harris got injured by running into A.J. Hawk while trying to cover an underneath route.

Wait, this is all Hawk's fault for being a solid built White boy. Al just bounced off him like nothing.

Unless someone steps up huge this injury is going to have a huge ripple effect all the way to the offensive side of the ball. M3 is gonna have to put Rodgers in position to score and score early and often.

[mmmdk]

Yeah, strange comment--especially since it appears that Harris got injured by running into A.J. Hawk while trying to cover an underneath route.

Wait, this is all Hawk's fault for being a solid built White boy. Al just bounced off him like nothing.

Unless someone steps up huge this injury is going to have a huge ripple effect all the way to the offensive side of the ball. M3 is gonna have to put Rodgers in position to score and score early and often.

I agree with Mad! It's not just D that has to step up. McCarthy has to get out of his funk & is it just me; but does M3 seem tired this season? He did remarry...

[GoPackGo]

I feel bad for Al Harris right now. A torn spleen can't feel good.

[The Gunshooter]

That's what happens when you don't allow your defense to be the aggressor. You stay on the field too long and get the shit pounded out of you. Now GB is in trouble because frankly, their secondary is shit. TW and the rest of them don't even belong in the league. Maybe ass wipe Sanders will now learn that the first duty is to stop the run AT ALL COSTS! If they score quick, so what, you live to fight another day.

Relax? Sanders just screwed up a legit contender and Al Harris can't hear me, nor does he care what the hell I say, if his spleen is ruptured he is going on IR. What Al and Sanders forgot about was Dallas intention of beating the living crap out of the defense with Barber. You can not allow that even if it costs you the game. This is not the playoffs where you have all season to recover. They have to play Tampa in 6 days and they are going to lose that one two.

Are you suggesting that the defensive game plan caused Harris to be injured? That Sanders was responsible for Harris rupturing his spleen? That the game plan for the defense should somehow protect the cornerbacks from having to tackle a running back, even if it costs the game?

Am I misreading this?

Yes I am. A good coach tries to create favorable match-ups. Sanders decided he would take away the pass and could live with forcing Dallas to run the ball. So far so good but that didn't work because Barber was gashing them. You have a plan and when it doesn't work you adjust. Sanders did not. The absolutely last thing you want is a 235lb beast like Barber building up a head of steam and your DB's having to take him on. You absolutely can not have your DB making tackles on him because he will hurt them. You are better off going to 8 or 9 in the box and forcing Dallas to throw. When they do it is easy to rush 6 or 7 if that's what it takes to hit the QB and you force Dallas to have fewer receivers out. So what if they lose the game, it's game 3 and Dallas might lose half their team to injury before game 17. There are certain players that absolutely can not go on IR if GB wants to go far in the playoffs. Sanders shit the bed by not stopping the run when it was obvious 7 couldn't do it. He wants to rush 4 every down and Dallas drooled at the chance to unleash their huge line and Barber on them.