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  • Post game chat with Cleft Crusty (at Tampa)

    Hi Folks,

    Well, being semi-retired, I didn't have to suffer through the heat and humidity of the game at Tampa, but I admit I dozed off as the Packers offense only managed one meaningful play in an entire half of football. I'm certain none of the the Packer faithful will be interested in comparing Favre and Rodgers today, but if you are, I'll answer any questions you have on Rodgers, the Packers, and the Bucs, with their all-star QB, Brian Griese. Fire away!

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    Who should we take in the first round this year?
    Check out my mock draft at

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kyle.McCarroll
      Who should we take in the first round this year?
      Even Cardinal fans aren't talking draft yet. What's wrong with you.

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      • #4
        is it time to bench Clifton? whiffed on 2 plays that got Rodgers killed both times.

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        • #5
          He leads the league in holding penalties which is a sign that he is loosing his feet and skill.

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          • #6
            Cleft, I think you could tackle Ryan Grant right now. Should he still be playing?
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cleft Crusty
              Originally posted by Kyle.McCarroll
              Who should we take in the first round this year?
              Even Cardinal fans aren't talking draft yet. What's wrong with you.
              A joke. Hince the wink.
              Check out my mock draft at

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kyle.McCarroll
                Originally posted by Cleft Crusty
                Originally posted by Kyle.McCarroll
                Who should we take in the first round this year?
                Even Cardinal fans aren't talking draft yet. What's wrong with you.
                A joke. Hince the wink.

                Plus nobody can question his left nut...right?

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                • #9
                  is there any hope for the o-line we currently have?

                  clifton can't stop a guy without holding him, colledge is garbage, wells looked pretty bad in his first game bad. spitz still doesn't looklike he gets it, and mark looks lost at times

                  and i have seen nothing good from the backups

                  should we scrap the whole thing next year and start over again?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pack4to84
                    is it time to bench Clifton? whiffed on 2 plays that got Rodgers killed both times.
                    Who are you going to put in there. Clifton gave up to a good speed rush and a very good defense. It happens

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      Cleft, I think you could tackle Ryan Grant right now. Should he still be playing?
                      Again, who are you going to put in there? You have to recognize the quality of the defense the Packers played. I think they had allowed only 20 points before today. The stretch zone blocking plays the Packers run play into the hands of a fast, agile defensive line with smart quick 'backers. But Grant is rusty, sure. Also, he's vitim a little to predictability in the offense.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rastak
                        Originally posted by Kyle.McCarroll
                        Originally posted by Cleft Crusty
                        Originally posted by Kyle.McCarroll
                        Who should we take in the first round this year?
                        Even Cardinal fans aren't talking draft yet. What's wrong with you.
                        A joke. Hince the wink.

                        Plus nobody can question his left nut...right?
                        Damn straight. plus, 'Ole Clefty can tell if a storm is coming just by the amount of swelling in the balky left knee.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pack4to84
                          He leads the league in holding penalties which is a sign that he is loosing his feet and skill.
                          More on Clifton: I think you're right to an extent. Both Clifton and Tauscher are starting to show some slide. It will be interesting to see if Clifton slides during the year, and has to be replaced on the go, or whether he lasts the season. You have to realize that the guys behind him are pretty raw. You could slide Colledge over and then go with Sitton and Spitz at guard, if necessary.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by red
                            is there any hope for the o-line we currently have?

                            clifton can't stop a guy without holding him, colledge is garbage, wells looked pretty bad in his first game bad. spitz still doesn't looklike he gets it, and mark looks lost at times

                            and i have seen nothing good from the backups

                            should we scrap the whole thing next year and start over again?
                            Yes. I think the Packers will release everyone on the line and go with 5 rookie draft picks. That's how you build a solid line in the NFL, right?

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                            • #15
                              well, we could always maybe try that free agency thing, or try trading for some o-line help

                              if we didn't have TT, of course

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