Backup QB: TT's bluff gets called.

[cpk1994]

the coaches throwing Rodgers back out there with a limp throwing arm was an admission of failure. They don't trust Flynn to do the job he is penciled-in to do. That's on the GM.

I was watching that game and thinking the same thing. I mean I always want you guys to lose but dammit, at least make sense of it. Why would you put your injured franchise QB back out there is beyond me when you have drafted two QB's (one in the 2nd round) to jump in just in case something like this happened. But as a Bear fan I just smiled and thought of how happy Brett was when he saw this game on his tivo when he got home...lol.
Boy it sucks to not have the Iron Man back there doesnt it?


Oh boy agreeing with a Packer fan...YUCK!

yes; but some of us are happy brett has a fresh start. plus we STILL hav a better QB than yal flatlanders...

Uh, you guys have a injured QB. Who majority of his yards are always to the same WR. We have a QB that is still standing and threw 3 TD's after playing the stingiest defense in the NFL. I dont think Rodgers will ever complete an entire season without getting hurt. Say hello to your very own Bonafide Packers version of Rex Grossman!

You must have been in a coma last week when the cowboys hung 41 on that "stingy" D.

[rbaloha1]

Matt Flynn and Brian Brohm are unready to play at a acceptable level.

TT's "gamble" is too risky. Just sign a veteran qb!

[MadtownPacker]

Honestly with all the injuries on the team I am down with riding the season out with what is on the roster.

[The Leaper]

What happens in packer nation, say, if Flynn goes out, gets us a win, and looks damn impressive.

LOL

Yeah right...and Clay Aiken isn't gay.

[The Leaper]

Re: Backup QB: TT's bluff gets called.

TT should have been in hot pursuit of a veteran backup as soon as Favre retired.

I think he was...but most decent veterans are interested in STARTING, not being a backup. At least they want a CHANCE to win the job as a starter, but clearly Green Bay was giving Rodgers the job.

Green Bay was stupid to immediately declare Rodgers the starter after Favre's retirement. One of the dumbest moves I have ever seen. It reduced Thompson's ability to attract a veteran QB to the roster.

Face it...when Thompson and McCarthy decided that Favre was finished in Green Bay, their hands were tied and it was Rodgers or bust. If we finish 4-12 as a result, it is on them.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The Packers were up by 1 point late in the game, 3rd and 13, Flynn at the helm.

They ran into the line, punted the ball away, and Tampa came back with a winning field goal.

IF the coaches don't trust Flynn to throw a pass in a critical situation, he is not up to the job of backup QB.

I am not criticizing Flynn for not being ready to play, or giving up on him. But the whole point of a backup QB is that they can come into a situation like at Tampa and be competent. There is no such thing as a developmental backup QB, they don't have to be good, but they have to be competent NOW.

TT is directly responsibile for the loss at Tampa, he didn't do his job and got caught.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Backup QB: TT's bluff gets called.

Green Bay was stupid to immediately declare Rodgers the starter after Favre's retirement. One of the dumbest moves I have ever seen. It reduced Thompson's ability to attract a veteran QB to the roster.

I see your point, maybe there would be some advantage in pretending that a starting job was available. But 80% of NFL teams have clear starters at QB, and they generally are able to attract backups. I think your point is valid but minor.

[Pacopete4]

I know craig nall isnt the best, but at least he knows our system and a lot of our players.. im surprised we havent brought him back

[Carolina_Packer]

I know craig nall isnt the best, but at least he knows our system and a lot of our players.. im surprised we havent brought him back

I think what complicated the situation is that Flynn performed to a level nobody expected, giving the braintrust hope that he was talented enough to stick and contribute in time. Problem is, he and Brohm are nowhere near ready to take the reigns and be a significant factor now. It's one thing if you have a great running game and you can manage the offense, but if you have to water down the passing game when you're already struggling to run the ball, what bullet do you have left in the chamber?

If they had just drafted Brohm and signed a sensible free agent backup, then there would be nobody to try and stash on the practice squad. But, then they lose out on a potential talent like Brohm. It was just a risky move, like TT was saying, "we are willing to take a chance that Rodgers gets hurt and that our offense will struggle and therefore the team", so that we can have these guys for the longer term." The problem with that thinking is, they were 14-4 including playoffs last year, so why risk anything? Of course now that the injury bug has come, things may be in doubt anyway, BUT, it's not like TT knew that when he was making the calculated risk at the QB postion.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I know craig nall isnt the best, but at least he knows our system and a lot of our players.. im surprised we havent brought him back

1. There is a reason he isn't in the league.

2. He hardly knows our system. He left when MM took over. He came back as backup in December of 07. Unless you think he suddenly learned our sysem in a month.

[mraynrand]

I know craig nall isnt the best, but at least he knows our system and a lot of our players.. im surprised we havent brought him back

[sharpe1027]

The Packers were up by 1 point late in the game, 3rd and 13, Flynn at the helm.

They ran into the line, punted the ball away, and Tampa came back with a winning field goal.

IF the coaches don't trust Flynn to throw a pass in a critical situation, he is not up to the job of backup QB.

I am not criticizing Flynn for not being ready to play, or giving up on him. But the whole point of a backup QB is that they can come into a situation like at Tampa and be competent. There is no such thing as a developmental backup QB, they don't have to be good, but they have to be competent NOW.

TT is directly responsibile for the loss at Tampa, he didn't do his job and got caught.

I can't recall the specific game, but I'm almost positive that I've seen MM make almost the same call with Favre at the helm. By your logic that must mean they didn't trust Favre...that might have been true.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't think so. That was a critical first down to try and achieve. Third and thirteen is not impossible. The QB has to understand the situation: throw the ball away if nothing open. Too much to gain to just punt the ball away.

With any competent QB, you don't give the ball away with a 1 point game and time running out. That was not a conservative call by MM, it was foolish - unless he thought the QB was hopeless.

[sharpe1027]

I don't think so. That was a critical first down to try and achieve. Third and thirteen is not impossible. The QB has to understand the situation: throw the ball away if nothing open. Too much to gain to just punt the ball away.

With any competent QB, you don't give the ball away with a 1 point game and time running out. That was not a conservative call by MM, it was foolish - unless he thought the QB was hopeless.

There was 9:40 left in the game and they were ahead. It wasn't exactly a desperation point where time was "running out." I don't necessarily like the call, but I've seen much more conservative calls than that. I really can't agree that single play justifies a conclusion that they think the QB is "hopeless."

I'm not saying that they have a lot of confidence in the kid, but might it be that you are looking for things to support your conclusion rather than trying to objectively look at the facts? Obviously, I can't say that's what is going on for sure, but it seems to fit...

[bobblehead]

I don't think so. That was a critical first down to try and achieve. Third and thirteen is not impossible. The QB has to understand the situation: throw the ball away if nothing open. Too much to gain to just punt the ball away.

With any competent QB, you don't give the ball away with a 1 point game and time running out. That was not a conservative call by MM, it was foolish - unless he thought the QB was hopeless.

There was 9:40 left in the game and they were ahead. It wasn't exactly a desperation point where time was "running out." I don't necessarily like the call, but I've seen much more conservative calls than that. I really can't agree that single play justifies a conclusion that they think the QB is "hopeless."

I'm not saying that they have a lot of confidence in the kid, but might it be that you are looking for things to support your conclusion rather than trying to objectively look at the facts? Obviously, I can't say that's what is going on for sure, but it seems to fit...

I don't know what to think...after all mike holmgren trusted TJ Rubly enough to let him call an audible late in a game.....