Positives/Negatives

[Scott Campbell]

I think this O line is a disaster, and its long overdue for a couple of moves.

[Carolina_Packer]

Sadly I think Chicago is the class of the north. They have the best line play. They have the best defense and special teams. Their QB is not good, but he's doing enough.


The Packers and Vikings are equal IMO. They'll both finish about 7-9. The Lions are the worst team in the NFL.

It would be between them and the Chiefs, although the Rams are nothing to write home about, unless it's a dysfunctional home.

[Partial]

Injuries have killed the DL. THe OL short yardage problem is nothing new. That has been going on for years no matter who is on the line or who the coach is.

injuries and conservative spending by TT

The second half of your statement is BS. You can have a good OL without breaking the bank. As a counter point the Vikings have spent $100 million on their OL. Still no playoff appearnances and the offense still blows. What you spend has no bearing on how good your line is.

That's a very short sighted statement with one example.

Dallas' line is built up from... you guessed it.. free agency! Are you honestly telling me that our line wouldn't be solidified right now with Faneca, a player who has been to the pro bowl 6 years in a row?!?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Injuries have killed the DL. THe OL short yardage problem is nothing new. That has been going on for years no matter who is on the line or who the coach is.

injuries and conservative spending by TT

The second half of your statement is BS. You can have a good OL without breaking the bank. As a counter point the Vikings have spent $100 million on their OL. Still no playoff appearnances and the offense still blows. What you spend has no bearing on how good your line is.

The injuries and spending referred to the Packer D-line.

But since you are talking O-line, your theory that "what you spend has no bearing on how good your line is" is astonishing. Sounds like Jerry Jones wasted a lot of money assembling that league-best offensive line, he could have gotten the same thing for nothing by simply becoming a believer in the cpk system.

Wait a sec, this all sounds familar, do you have a late night infomercial?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think this O line is a disaster, and its long overdue for a couple of moves.

The problem is: this year I've been moderately surprised by the interior OL. It seems like Clifton and Tauscher have been the weak links. I didn't expect that this year. We did much better yesterday when Barbre went to LG and Colledge to LT. It helped not to have any Clifton penalties in the second half. Tauscher has whiffed on his share of blocks.

[sharpe1027]

Re: Positives/Negatives

Will Blackmon has still never made one play on defense other than tackling a reciever after he gives up an easy catch. He is a zero. Worst player on the field.

He is our best return guy. He is the 4th string CB. He isn't getting stupid penalties. He always seems to be right with his man. I don't recall him giving up any big plays or having mental errors. I remember him breaking up a pass or two.

If he is the worst player on the field, you must be pretty happy with the quality of players this team.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I am very impressed with Tramon Williams this year. Since he's come in for Harris he has played very well. That INT of his yesterday was one of the most athletic plays I've seen a DB make. You can just see his confidence and ability grow each week.

[cpk1994]

Injuries have killed the DL. THe OL short yardage problem is nothing new. That has been going on for years no matter who is on the line or who the coach is.

injuries and conservative spending by TT

The second half of your statement is BS. You can have a good OL without breaking the bank. As a counter point the Vikings have spent $100 million on their OL. Still no playoff appearnances and the offense still blows. What you spend has no bearing on how good your line is.

Dude, apples meet oranges. They spent and they led the league in rushing. If you are paying any attention at all you'd realize their issues are QB and WR....but mainly coaching staff.

Also their pass protection. That is on the OL. Maybe it wasn't a completely good ciounter point, but the fact remains that you don't have to break the bank to have a good OL and Harlans post about TT conservative spending on the line being a problem is still BS.

[cpk1994]

Injuries have killed the DL. THe OL short yardage problem is nothing new. That has been going on for years no matter who is on the line or who the coach is.

injuries and conservative spending by TT

The second half of your statement is BS. You can have a good OL without breaking the bank. As a counter point the Vikings have spent $100 million on their OL. Still no playoff appearnances and the offense still blows. What you spend has no bearing on how good your line is.

The injuries and spending referred to the Packer D-line.

But since you are talking O-line, your theory that "what you spend has no bearing on how good your line is" is astonishing. Sounds like Jerry Jones wasted a lot of money assembling that league-best offensive line, he could have gotten the same thing for nothing by simply becoming a believer in the cpk system.

Wait a sec, this all sounds familar, do you have a late night infomercial?

Well, how about that great line the Packers had under Mike Sherman? They didn't spend much on that line now did they. As I recall Rivera and Wahle left for their big paydays and the rest got their paydays after a couple of years showing that they were a good line.

[Fred's Slacks]

I think this O line is a disaster, and its long overdue for a couple of moves.

The problem is: this year I've been moderately surprised by the interior OL. It seems like Clifton and Tauscher have been the weak links. I didn't expect that this year. We did much better yesterday when Barbre went to LG and Colledge to LT. It helped not to have any Clifton penalties in the second half. Tauscher has whiffed on his share of blocks.

I agree. The thinking was our guard play was going to start to catch up to the tackle play. We didn't foresee the tackle play decline. Wells has been crap too. Tausch has been okay but not as good as last year. I hope Clifton's problem is injury related. It would be nice to get him back to the level he played at last year. That alone would go a long way to fixing our OLine problem.

[Partial]

I would like them to play Spitz at center and Sitton at guard for the rest of the season once healthy. It's time we try to get more powerful up front. At it looks now, we're not going anywhere anyway this year, so might as well get some experience with those guys so we can hit the ground running next year.

[Harlan Huckleby]

get some experience with those guys so we can hit the ground running next year.

actually, I think a revamped line will immediately be better. And maybe much better by December.

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