Where do the Packers need the most help??

[RashanGary]

I'm going to vote WR's. Driver is a legit NFL starter but he's not a star IMO. He does deserve to be the #1 but he needs another good player to compliment him for the offense to be really effective. I do think Jennings will be the best rookie WR this year because of his polish, skills, team need and mental approach. Being the best of a weak rookie class usually isn't saying much. He looks NFL ready at 5'11", 200 lbs but you never really know until a few weeks into the season.

I watched 4 or 5 OTA's and for Ferg, Gardner and Boerigter being in their NFL prime, they all looked below average at best. Jennings and Driver are the only good players in the bunch and the rest are complete stumble bums. Rodgers is incredibly explosive and other than Jennings and Driver, I'd rather see him with the ball because of his elusive, explosive nature but he can't catch the damn ball and it's going to be a struggle for him to even make the team unless he starts holding on to a few punts.

In short, it's a crappy unit and if Driver goes down, it is even worse than last year. The only real hope is for someone to step forward other than Driver. Jennings looks like the only guy with that ability and he is a Rookie. We all know how rookies have fared in this offense. Fortunately, McCarthy has simplified the offense and the rooks are on the same page with the vets. We'll see, but my money is on Jennings as the #2 by seasons end. I heard Favre say at one point that Jennings had a better idea of where to be than Favre himself. It gives some hope anyway but it's not good.

I follow WR's up with RB's because of injury concern and OL because they are so young.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Until Colledge, Wells, Spitz, and/or Coston prove themselves, I'm going to say the OL. Their wideouts aren't great, but if they stay healthy, they should be serviceable. I can't say that about the OL until some young guys step up.

[RashanGary]

Spitz and Colledge are pretty damn high picks for OG's. I would be surprised if they sucked. Denver and ATL have all 7th round stumble bums and we invested high picks. I think they'll be OK. If not, Thompson needs a kick in the nuts because most zone teams get by with late round guys and he invested a big part of our early draft on those guys. As far as OTA's have gone, neither have disappointed like the WR's.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Worst case scenario, we have a guy that should be a 3rd receiver as a starter and a guy that should be a 4th receiver as the 3rd receiver. I know we are deeper at WR than last year (after Walker got injured) with the additions of Gardner, Jennings (he was a pretty high pick also), and Boerigter. I think we can get by. It won't be steller, but it won't be brutal either.

Worst case scenario on the interior line, we totally suck like last year and there's no hope that we improve on offense. I don't care if somebody is a second round pick, you don't know what you are getting. They could be solid or they could completely suck. The interior OL has more upside than the WRs, but the WRs are a better bet not to completely suck.

Also, at wideout we need one of the four candidates to step up and be a solid starter. At interior OL we need three of the four candidates to step up and be solid starters.

[RashanGary]

You give alot more credit to Boerigter, Ferg and Gardner than I do. I think those guys are barely a notch over Antonio Chatman.

Spitz and Colledge I think have the possibility to be really good NFL starters.

[Partial]

I am actually relatively worried about Colledge. He is switching positions and we are banking on his physical attributes to pull him through. I think Spitz is going to be good. He was on a lot of player's to watch lists prior to the draft. Same with Hodge!

[wist43]

The Packers are pretty much junk at both OL and WR.

They have plenty of young guys competing for starting jobs, but even in a best case scenario it's going to take them at least a couple of years till they're servicable starters.

WR is a position that requires playmakers... the Packers have none.

[RashanGary]

The Packers are pretty much junk at both OL and WR.

They have plenty of young guys competing for starting jobs, but even in a best case scenario it's going to take them at least a couple of years till they're servicable starters.

WR is a position that requires playmakers... the Packers have none.

I agree with this. I think they both suck this year but the OL has alot more possibility to grow.

[Willard]

My vote went to the WR corps. I like Driver; I think Jennings has a future; I have no idea if any of the others will appear the least bit threatening. This is a key IMO. If the Pack does not appear to have a legitimate vertical passing attack, then opposing defenses will be able to cheat and make life hell for our RBs and OL.

My vote (WR) assumes Green makes a complete recovery. It also assumes Davenport and/or Gado/Herron turn into legitimate NFL weapons. This may be presumptuous, but sometimes you just have to believe.

The Offensive Line could go either way, and it is scary. The Pack was wise in using high draft picks to infuse talent into this group, but I still am nervous thinking of the DTs this unit is going to see starting on Sept. 10. OMG, this could get ugly early! In the long run I think this OL will work, but there could easily be serious growing pains that may put Favre in serious peril.

[MadtownPacker]

Just like any structure the O is only as good as its foundation. The Oline is that foundation. The jail breaks on Favre last season should answer all your questions. They made all the bad throws and INTs happen. Had Favre had some protection he would have found a receiver instead of chucking it away to the heavens.

[woodbuck27]

The Offence must be anchored by a solid OL but we are going to float with what we already have or so it seems. TT isn't likely to bring in anyone that is unfamiliar with what we are doing, unless it's before TC and that option won't be available until the TC cuts.

So realistically we have #1 need at WR, and I believe before it's over this season at RB. The reports to date, back that up, that WR is a definite weakness for us.

[OKC PackerFan]

I picked WR, Driver is the only constant reliable one there. OL is a ?, we don't know what we have in Colledge and Spitz. If remember right didn't Taucher and Cliffton start as rookies, maybe just Taucher, any ways they played well in their rookie season. RB is also a ?, hopefully Green can regain most of his old form back. If one of the other WR's don't step we will have to rely more on our TE's and Green catching the ball out of the back field.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It's troubling that the 3 shakiest groups are all on offense: OL, WR, RB.

Funny thing is, this time last year, we were all saying "defense needs shoring up, but the offense will be terrific." Well, injuries were obviously a big part, but the D-line was surprisingly more effective than the O-line.

Which is to say.... never can tell.

[chain_gang]

I'd have to say other. I think the D-line is the spot that worries me the most and is the key to whether the season is successful or not. DT's are young Pickett might turn out to be decent, but I'm more worried that his season last, was motivated to get a big payday in FA. Other years he didn't look like he produced much. That wait and see, hopefully he turns out to be a great pickup. The other DT spot is unsettled, and sounds like overall they use a steady rotation, which is fine, but shows it lacks any above average players. DE Kampman showed me a lot last year and I think he'll be as good this year, but KGB is a key. Without his pass rush ability, we'll be an average to poor Defense at best this year. I hope they bring in a run stuffer on running downs, and let KGB conserve some enegry for the passing downs. It still bothers me they neglected the pass rush all offseason(Yeah they resigned Kamp, but he needs help), and for a team that doesn't seem to blitz much to create pressure. I don't know who was out there to sign or draft that would make much of an impact, but it still seemed to be neglected. Our DB's could be all HOFer's, but without a pass rush would look at average at best.

Hopefully they all step it up on the dline this year, some our DB's can take advantage of some poor decisions by the opposing QB's.

As for picking another area I would have to say the Oline. Two rookie guards, and an unproven center against the likes of the Bears Defense with Tommie Harris and Tank Johnson, Shaun Rogers of Detroit, Kevin and Pat Williams of the Vikings, could prove to be disastrous.

All in all I guess everything is wait and see right now. Come on TC hurry up.

[wist43]

I think most of us look at the DL as being steady but unspectacular... I think you're underestimating the DT's.

As a group Williams, Jenkins, Cole and Pickett are pretty solid. Williams is tough, has a little bit of interior pass rush to him, and gets down the line well; Cole has better movement skills than his squat build would indicate - it will be interesting to see if he can continue to develop; and, Jenkins is a very good situational pass rusher. None of those three is going to make the pro bowl, but in a rotation they are pretty effective.

This team is going nowhere this year, or probably for the next few years... so, for this season to be a success the young guys on both sides of the ball need to develop. For the team to move forward in terms of competitivness, they need the young guys on the OL and at WR to develop and prove they belong in the league.