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Originally posted by Brando19
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In the long run Ted is right much more often than he is wrong.
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I agree with your sentiment, just not your numbers. I think even good GMs are barely right 50% of the time. There's a lot of room to be wrong in the NFL and still win - or to be right and still lose. For example, TT was probably right about Corey Williams, except that Harrell and Jenkins and KGB, and Picket all got hurt. TT was right about Rodgers (or at least even), but having an unsettled O-line and a weakened Grant for the first 1/4 of the season didn't do him any favors, etc. etc.Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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TT is not an idiot for releasing Jon Ryan. TT is an idiot for not replacing him with somebody better, but I had about enough of Ryan's 15 yard shanks. Both punters stink. An upgrade is welcome.Originally posted by cpk1994Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to growComment
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Originally posted by Patler
He is being sarcastic other than JH he is the biggest TT lover and BF hater on this forum.
I hate to say it but TT is batting worse than Ben Sheets this year with his moves, although Rodgers has panned out better than expected at least be me. Look at the bright side we have already lost as many games as last season can it get any worse.
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the thing that bothers me most is that it looks like they did very little research on him before they cut ryan and signed him.
right after we signed him i went to a couple redskins boards, and they were all happy as a pig in shit to get rid of him. they listed all the problems with him that we have been seeing since we signed him
and the kicker is, that ryan had a better net average between the 2. the number that is most importantComment
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I don't despise TT. But I thought it was extremly moronic to release Ryan 6 days beofre the opener after not giving him any competition in camp. Thats why I am glad this particular move blew up in his face.Originally posted by PatlerComment
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Frost's average of 44.4/38 are his career best #'s and above Ryan's performance (43/34) in Seattle (and the same as Ryan's performance last year). Not sure about hang time - knowing it could improve.
Why all the hate and focus?
IMO, there are much bigger issues in GB....The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.Comment
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These figures are really surprising. I also thought Frost had been punting like crap this season. Even if that is his correct average, though, I'm glad to see they are looking for an upgrade.Originally posted by Fosco33What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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Frost
Ryan
Always room for improvement - and can almost always upgrade a player....The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.Comment
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Originally posted by cpk1994
Moronic.Who Knows? The Shadow knows!Comment
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Frost has hit just as many liners as Ryan and had a few shanks. He doesn't kick 'em high to the coverage. I thought it was strange to release Ryan right before the opener, too.
This is funny.
I guess Stock loved Frost. If Frost gets cut, I bet we get a new ST coach in the off-season.Comment
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The biggest problem I have with Frost is that I never get the sense that he can occasionally boom one. It's just the same average to below average punt every time. If he's punting from inside his own 10 it seems like a foregone conclusion that the opposing team will be starting in our territory.Originally posted by Fosco33
Jon Ryan may not have been the most consistent punter but every so often he could really nail one and change field position in our favor.Comment
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I'd love to see this stat. My memory of Ryan is that between the 20s was when he was likely to shank or line drive it setting up a big return. It was when he was closer to the fifty or opposing ground, when he tried to sky one, that he would hit a 54 or 60 yard punt right into the endzone.Originally posted by red
I liked Ryan's attitude, tackling and running ability though, so I am open to the opposing numbers.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Why is that moronic?Originally posted by cpk1994
-few teams took extra punters, kickers or snappers into training camp because of the lower roster #s allowed.
- Stock apparently knew Frost and thought he was an upgrade.
- Frost wasn't available until Washington released him in the last cutdown.
- TT may not have cut Ryan for just "anybody", he wanted an improvement.
If TT was moronic, what about Seattle who cut Plackermaier a week into the season and then signed Ryan?
Even if you are right and it was "moronic"; why are you, as a supposed Packer fan, glad to see it blow up in his face? I would think you would want the Packers to succeed, and would hope that you are proven wrong and TT right!Comment
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This indicates what you suspect, somewhat.Originally posted by pbmax
In 2007, Ryan had the second most touchbacks in the league with 11 on just 60 punts. The league leader was Andy Lee with 13, but on 105 punts. Bidwell was 3rd with 10, but on 77 punts. In fact, of the 6 punters with 9 touchbacks, all had at least 78 punts. Without doing calulations on all of them, it looks like Ryan had the highest percentage of touchbacks quite easily, while at the sme time having only the 23 highest number downed inside the 20.Comment
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