OFFICIAL teams not named the Packers game day thread

[channtheman]

You know what's cool about the Giants. They tied the game late and the defense held and didn't let Carolina score in 2 seconds. They then won in OT. Amazing what happens when the defense doesn't give up multiple game losing scoring drives to the opposing team.

Notice no one bitching about how awful the defense was despite giving up a ton of points.

Our defense gives up half of that over 60 minutes and it's there fault week in and week out.

We don't bitch about our team giving up points, but we do bitch about them not stopping the opposing team when it matters most. I would like to agree with you on some points but the way you argue makes me, and everyone else it seems, want to just tell you to shut up.

[Gunakor]

You know what's cool about the Giants. They tied the game late and the defense held and didn't let Carolina score in 2 seconds. They then won in OT. Amazing what happens when the defense doesn't give up multiple game losing scoring drives to the opposing team.

Notice no one bitching about how awful the defense was despite giving up a ton of points.

Our defense gives up half of that over 60 minutes and it's there fault week in and week out.

Did the Giants defense give up a winning score on the Panther's final drive? No.

Did ours?

There's the difference.

[digitaldean]

Partial can't handle the facts, but here they are anyway:

Before tonight's game, we are ranked 20th in scoring defense.

http://tinyurl.com/85ud9v

We are ranked 10th in scoring offense.

http://tinyurl.com/8rfkga

Links from NFL.com stats

Plus another stat that isn't on NFL.com

We had a defense given a lead or chance at OT for 3 straight weeks. A 3 pt. lead, a tie, and a 9 point lead. It wasn't ARod throwing a pick or giving up a fumble that gave the other team a score to win the game. The defense flat out choked.

Good god, Partial, you must want to just stir the pot to see what kind of reaction you get.

[Gunakor]

Partial can't handle the facts, but here they are anyway:

Before tonight's game, we are ranked 20th in scoring defense.

http://tinyurl.com/85ud9v

We are ranked 10th in scoring offense.

http://tinyurl.com/8rfkga

Links from NFL.com stats

Plus another stat that isn't on NFL.com

We had a defense given a lead or chance at OT for 3 straight weeks. A 3 pt. lead, a tie, and a 9 point lead. It wasn't ARod throwing a pick or giving up a fumble that gave the other team a score to win the game. The defense flat out choked.

Good god, Partial, you must want to just stir the pot to see what kind of reaction you get.

Ah, but as Partial will be quick to point out, a 3 point lead is not a 7 point lead, and a tie is not a 4 point lead. That's where his problem is. He feels as though the offense should score enough points going into the opponents final drive that our defense could allow a score and we still win. He thinks the defense is there just for show, because our offense should be the unit that puts the game away.

Me personally, I'd rather win 3-0 or 7-3 than 31-28 or something rediculous like that. As I've been saying for quite some time now, games are won by the defense. Proof being that a FG alone wins the game if your defense shuts out your opponent, but 3 TD's doesn't win the game if your defense can't stop anybody.

[Fosco33]

Who's watching what??

I've got the Ticket's GameMix.

Bal up by 3 with 5 min in 1st but Jags have it around the 50.
Boys/Birds are tied - Philly isn't taking advantage of it's early opportunities.

[Partial]

Eagles Boys game is going to be a ton of fun. I'm going to go watch.

[Fosco33]

Big drop by Williams...

[Fosco33]

4 false starts by the Fins in the 1st Q

[Bretsky]

JAGS 7
RAVENS 3

Can we still dream about a 2nd ?

[channtheman]

Ouch. Favre 1/6 9 Yards INT

[channtheman]

If Dallas got knocked out of the playoffs this year, all would be right.

[Rastak]

Just got back from watching the NFC North champions.

I have this observation. Damn, the Giants are really really tough on the line, both offensively and defensively. The were really beat up during the game though, they had at least two guys carted off to the locker room.

[Bretsky]

Just got back from watching the NFC North champions.

I have this observation. Damn, the Giants are really really tough on the line, both offensively and defensively. The were really beat up during the game though, they had at least two guys carted off to the locker room.

CONGRATS ON THE DIVISIONAL TITLE RAS

GET A QB AND YOUR TEAM WILL BE SCARY

[Rastak]

Just got back from watching the NFC North champions.

I have this observation. Damn, the Giants are really really tough on the line, both offensively and defensively. The were really beat up during the game though, they had at least two guys carted off to the locker room.

CONGRATS ON THE DIVISIONAL TITLE RAS

GET A QB AND YOUR TEAM WILL BE SCARY

Thanks Bretsky. Jackson had some nice throws but threw a bad pick in the red zone that almost cost the game.


Should be an interesting offseason. I was hoping for McNabb but the Eagles are surging so that might be out. In fact, the Vikings play the winner of the Cowboys/Eagles game next week.

[billy_oliver880]

cowboys are in full melt down right now.