Improved play...or just a really bad opponent?

[texaspackerbacker]

They won against a bad team. The running game is atrocious! Grant just seemed to continuously run into a pile of players. I’m not that good at catching the details, but where is his 1-cut ability?

GB will have to dramatically raise their level of play to beat the Colts this weekend.

Sometimes Vegas gives away the outcome of games with their setting of lines. The fact the Packers opened as favorites, and 80% of the betting public has already laid money on the Colts, there are good chances of a straight-up win for the Packers. Vegas doesnt give out Christmas presents, and with over 80 percent of the action on one side the normal gamblers axiom is to go the other way. Don't be surprised if the Pack pulls out a victory here.

So that means the fix is in--Peyton's gonna toss a few crucial picks our way?

That's too bad. I think we coulda beat 'em without the Vegas help ...... but like the man said, any win is a good win.

[bobblehead]

They won against a bad team. The running game is atrocious! Grant just seemed to continuously run into a pile of players. I’m not that good at catching the details, but where is his 1-cut ability?

GB will have to dramatically raise their level of play to beat the Colts this weekend.

Sometimes Vegas gives away the outcome of games with their setting of lines. The fact the Packers opened as favorites, and 80% of the betting public has already laid money on the Colts, there are good chances of a straight-up win for the Packers. Vegas doesnt give out Christmas presents, and with over 80 percent of the action on one side the normal gamblers axiom is to go the other way. Don't be surprised if the Pack pulls out a victory here.

we call it a trap game, all the money will be on indy, and the pack will win by 7.....I hope!!!

[bobblehead]

They won against a bad team. The running game is atrocious! Grant just seemed to continuously run into a pile of players. I’m not that good at catching the details, but where is his 1-cut ability?

GB will have to dramatically raise their level of play to beat the Colts this weekend.

Sometimes Vegas gives away the outcome of games with their setting of lines. The fact the Packers opened as favorites, and 80% of the betting public has already laid money on the Colts, there are good chances of a straight-up win for the Packers. Vegas doesnt give out Christmas presents, and with over 80 percent of the action on one side the normal gamblers axiom is to go the other way. Don't be surprised if the Pack pulls out a victory here.

So that means the fix is in--Peyton's gonna toss a few crucial picks our way?

That's too bad. I think we coulda beat 'em without the Vegas help ...... but like the man said, any win is a good win.

Not a fix, just that the public perception of these two teams is off base. Vegas WANTS the money on Indy....the linesmakers believe the pack will win this game strong. Again, we call it a trap game. If they really wanted the money to lay evenly (the normal goal) the line would be 3 1/2. They want money on indy as they believe very strongly the public has the wrong perception of these two teams.

[DonHutson]

Didn't they only have five penalties? That's a vast improvement that has nothing to do with the opponent.

[FavreChild]

The penalty situation was the biggest improvement in my mind as well.

[Fritz]

I dont' know what to think of this edition of the Packers. They kinda seem finesse, as Bretsky noted, but maybe when Bigby gets back and if Harrell can hold up and produce, that'll change.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

They won against a bad team. The running game is atrocious! Grant just seemed to continuously run into a pile of players. I’m not that good at catching the details, but where is his 1-cut ability?

GB will have to dramatically raise their level of play to beat the Colts this weekend.

Sometimes Vegas gives away the outcome of games with their setting of lines. The fact the Packers opened as favorites, and 80% of the betting public has already laid money on the Colts, there are good chances of a straight-up win for the Packers. Vegas doesnt give out Christmas presents, and with over 80 percent of the action on one side the normal gamblers axiom is to go the other way. Don't be surprised if the Pack pulls out a victory here.

So that means the fix is in--Peyton's gonna toss a few crucial picks our way?

That's too bad. I think we coulda beat 'em without the Vegas help ...... but like the man said, any win is a good win.

Not a fix, just that the public perception of these two teams is off base. Vegas WANTS the money on Indy....the linesmakers believe the pack will win this game strong. Again, we call it a trap game. If they really wanted the money to lay evenly (the normal goal) the line would be 3 1/2. They want money on indy as they believe very strongly the public has the wrong perception of these two teams.

Exactly, thanks for clearing that up.

[gbgary]

Re: Improved play...or just a really bad opponent?

Improved play...or just a really bad opponent?

yes!!

[sharpe1027]

Where do you get the stat that 80% of the betting public has money on the Colts? I find it highly unlikely given that Vegas always wins if they get even bets on both sides. Why would they take a risk when they can get guaranteed money? The Colts have struggled lately, my guess is that alot of people were betting on the Packers up until this weeks performance.

[DonHutson]

I dont' know what to think of this edition of the Packers. They kinda seem finesse, as Bretsky noted, but maybe when Bigby gets back and if Harrell can hold up and produce, that'll change.

Agreed. I think the excessive snap counts Pickett and Jolly have been taking on aren't helping either. If they're wearing down they aren't keeping blockers off Barnett and Hawk, which limits the punishment they can dish out. Hawk's gimpy groin seems to be limiting him in that department as well.

Also KGB and Jeremy Thompson are going to be less physical than Cullen Jenkins was. Montgomery might offer an upgrade there, but that's not a huge strong suit of his either. Jenkins is a big loss as far as setting a physical tone to a game.

[3irty1]

Where do you get the stat that 80% of the betting public has money on the Colts? I find it highly unlikely given that Vegas always wins if they get even bets on both sides. Why would they take a risk when they can get guaranteed money? The Colts have struggled lately, my guess is that alot of people were betting on the Packers up until this weeks performance.

I guess the 20% betting on the Packers are just putting down 4x more money!

[sharpe1027]

Where do you get the stat that 80% of the betting public has money on the Colts? I find it highly unlikely given that Vegas always wins if they get even bets on both sides. Why would they take a risk when they can get guaranteed money? The Colts have struggled lately, my guess is that alot of people were betting on the Packers up until this weeks performance.

I guess the 20% betting on the Packers are just putting down 4x more money!

[SnakeLH2006]

We are poor and it will now take 10 wins to get into postseason NFC with Detroit going 2-14. We are poor unless Grant/Oline/D-line really goes balls out....I don't have confidence in any of the 3 right now. 9-7 best and doesn't get us into the postseason.

[packerbacker1234]

Don't care, I stand by my statements. The packers did not look impressive to me. Sure, certain individuals stood out - but as a team it was a bad day at the office. How do you only beat one of the worst teams in the NFL by only 10 points, without their starting QB? I mean, seriously. It should of been at least two td's.

I am really worried we wont be able to beat quality opponents, as our three wins are all against teams that are not quality (minnesota not withstanding, as they changed QB's sense they played us).