TT Sniffing around Gonzalez??

[boiga]

JSO: Bid to land Gonzalez falls short. Chiefs were willing to deal star tight end for second-round pick

Wow.... Ted was willing to pay a third for him but they wanted a second so the deal fell through... Gonzalez was willing to play three years here and is pissed the Chiefs wouldn't trade him for a third.

I'm glad Ted didn't overpay with Greg and Rodgers' paydays coming up, but still... a probowl tight end would have given us a more star studded offense than Dallas.

[SnakeLH2006]

JSO: Bid to land Gonzalez falls short. Chiefs were willing to deal star tight end for second-round pick

Wow.... Ted was willing to pay a third for him but they wanted a second so the deal fell through... Gonzalez was willing to play three years here and is pissed the Chiefs wouldn't trade him for a third.

I'm glad Ted didn't overpay with Greg and Rodgers' paydays coming up, but still... a probowl tight end would have given us a more star studded offense than Dallas.

Huh? This must be sarcasm....as uh...they have the 3 of the best skilled weapons in the NFL in TO, their RB, and Whitten......not to mention Pro-Bowlers across the board on their massive Oline and Romo when healthy. Gonzalez would not make much of difference on our O till we get some better Oline play.

[boiga]

Gonzalez and Witten are of the same caliber as receiving threats, although Witten is admittedly a better blocker. As a unit, our receivers are as good as Dallas + Roy Williams, and their O-line is over rated, as seen by the fact that Romo is out for four weeks.

So yes, Gonzalez would have tipped those scales in our favor.

[Partial]

Their OLINE > our OLINE

Their Receivers > our Receivers

Their Backs > our Backs

Their QB > our QB

Their TE > our TE

if we had Gonzalez, i'd say we'd match up in TE. That's it.

[SnakeLH2006]

Gonzalez and Witten are of the same caliber as receiving threats, although Witten is admittedly a better blocker. As a unit, our receivers are as good as Dallas + Roy Williams, and their O-line is over rated, as seen by the fact that Romo is out for four weeks.

So yes, Gonzalez would have tipped those scales in our favor.

Hahahaha. Ok then. I don't think we're close to having one player tipping the scales in our favor in O. Not till that line is fixed.

[boiga]

If that's the kind of reaction I'll get for responding to you, Snake, I don't think I'll ever make that mistake again.

Back on topic, was Thompson right in the way he handled this situation? He once again refused to over pay for a guy who would have been a quality addition to our team. I have the feeling that Gonzalez would have been more akin to Woodson and Pickett and would have contributed on arrival, but is a second rounder really that valuable?

I've got mixed feelings on this one.

[Tarlam!]

Their OLINE > our OLINE

Their Receivers > our Receivers

Their Backs > our Backs

Their QB > our QB

Their TE > our TE

if we had Gonzalez, i'd say we'd match up in TE. That's it.

Huh? I respectfully don't get this post.

[falco]

boiga > snakeLH2006

[Tarlam!]

boiga > snakeLH2006

Everybody is > snakeLH2006.

For someone with a 3.8 grade average, snakeLH2006 really surprises me with the lack of quality in his posts.

[Fritz]

I stand vindicated on this thread (I feel the need to point that out since I'm wrong often enough as well). Not only was Gonzalez not available for a fifth, he wasn't available for a fourth, and he wasn't available for a third. So for people piling on cuz TT wouldn't pull the trigger and give up a fifth rounder...time to wake up from your dream world.

Speaking of piling on TT, I'm a little pissed at the JSO for having a single sentence paragraph saying that this was another example of TT being unwilling to pull the trigger on a trade for a high-visibility offensive talent.

TT wasn't unwilling to pull the trigger - he just didn't want to pull the trigger on giving up a second rounder. A third round pick is not a paltry pick, but it wasn't enough. So TT made a decision that Gonzalez wasn't worth a second. I don't think that this fits with a characterization of TT as somehow being gunshy.

I don't think Gonzo is worth a second. Were he a better blocker (does anyone else out there think maybe the Packers' run game misses Bubba Franks's blocking?), well, maybe. But he's admittedly not a good blocker, and this offense needs run blocking to go with the receiving skills Gonzo brings.

[Bretsky]

I think Shockey was traded for a 2nd and 5th. He's younger but very injury prone.

Everybody wants a deal these days. I think Fair Market Value was a 2nd. I think Gonzo might have had a Keith Jackson impact on this team if he plays three more years. I doubt we'd go anywhere deep this year with or without him but the impace of the next three years may have warranted a 2nd.

I don't blame the Chiefs GM for holding out for a 2nd or TT for not giving one up.

We'd have our TE's set for a few years, and GB is going to pick up either a 2nd or 3rd round pick next year for getting rid of Favre.

I also don't blame McGinn; he offers commentary and mixes facts with opinions.

After all, trading for Turner would look pretty good right now...ditto for Moss before last year.

He helps sell papers with his views.

[Scott Campbell]

Things ended as they should have. Ted worked the deal and tried to land a guy that could help the team. In the end he refused to overpay. Cool by me.

[Bossman641]

I stand vindicated on this thread (I feel the need to point that out since I'm wrong often enough as well). Not only was Gonzalez not available for a fifth, he wasn't available for a fourth, and he wasn't available for a third. So for people piling on cuz TT wouldn't pull the trigger and give up a fifth rounder...time to wake up from your dream world.

Speaking of piling on TT, I'm a little pissed at the JSO for having a single sentence paragraph saying that this was another example of TT being unwilling to pull the trigger on a trade for a high-visibility offensive talent.

TT wasn't unwilling to pull the trigger - he just didn't want to pull the trigger on giving up a second rounder. A third round pick is not a paltry pick, but it wasn't enough. So TT made a decision that Gonzalez wasn't worth a second. I don't think that this fits with a characterization of TT as somehow being gunshy.

I don't think Gonzo is worth a second. Were he a better blocker (does anyone else out there think maybe the Packers' run game misses Bubba Franks's blocking?), well, maybe. But he's admittedly not a good blocker, and this offense needs run blocking to go with the receiving skills Gonzo brings.

I agree. That sentence seemed a little bush league. TT made the highest bid, and what seems like a good offer to me. There's no way I would want to give up a second for Gonzalez. He didn't lowball the Chiefs, he had the highest offer on the table. It also says that TT had increased his offer throughout the day.

[LL2]

It would’ve been awesome if we would’ve gotten Gonzo for a 3rd rd pick. Even ESPN is saying the Chiefs should’ve made the deal. Gonzo would’ve helped spread the field for the offense, which would’ve opened up the others receivers. He would’ve also helped the running game with his blocking skills. The additional bonus would’ve been that Jermicheal and Tory could’ve learned from one of the best. Since we are going to have two 2nd rd picks next year, I probably would’ve parted with a 2nd. Gonzo could’ve given GB 3 or 4 good years. How many 2nd rd picks do that?

[sheepshead]

Things ended as they should have. Ted worked the deal and tried to land a guy that could help the team. In the end he refused to overpay. Cool by me.

I think he does this more than we know.