So long Pacman

[mission]

This is why TT wouldn't give up much for randy moss. You mess around with bad character individuals it WILL bite you in the ass a healthy % of the time. NOw when TO melts down the cowpies will wonder how this happened to them.

And blow is he EVER! The stage is perfectly set for a big one too ... it's just gonna take one more game from here ... lol I love it!

[SnakeLH2006]

This is why TT wouldn't give up much for randy moss. You mess around with bad character individuals it WILL bite you in the ass a healthy % of the time. NOw when TO melts down the cowpies will wonder how this happened to them.

And blow is he EVER! The stage is perfectly set for a big one too ... it's just gonna take one more game from here ... lol I love it!

Can't wait to see it too! Kinda giddy to see the TO meltdown in big D so we can get some more priceless pics of Jerry Jones with bewildered, sad, and waxman-ish plastic surgered fucked up looks. Anyone catch out TO on Sportcenter after the game telling a reporter, like a punk, "What part of NO don't you understand."...while dressed like a complete moron in a yellow who-framed-Waldo get-up? What a fool!

[Cheesehead Craig]

With Pacman and Romo out for the next 4 games, the Cowboys are looking very weak. Wouldn't surprise me if they go 1-3 over that stretch.

Not sure how much packman was helping them. Losing Romo, on the other hand, is much greater.

Agreed, and losing Romo means that TO will go haywire by the end of that stretch. It's always fun to see him cussing out the O-Line, so at least this will be good TV.

Pacman was their starting CB and they really don't have that great of depth behind him. Pacman may be a dink off the field, but he was a very good CB. They are going to have a huge dropoff in coverage quality. We've seen with the Pack what happens when backups start getting more playing time when they are not ready, the Cowboys pass D is going to be worse and teams are going to start scoring more on the Cowboys.

[Scott Campbell]

I saw Pacman as being a adequate CB, but somewhat disappointing in terms of his draft status and hype.

[Deputy Nutz]

Re: So long Pacman

The NFL found that Jones was involved in an alcohol-related physical altercation

The NFL should have gone easy on him. He's just a kid and was probably stealing beer from a garage. Luckily he wasn't shot in the back by some kook who called 911.

This makes me laugh cherrios threw my nose.

[Tarlam!]

Well, not knowing the full story doesn't help. I think Goodell is using this kid as an example. It's too bad.

I know a lot of posters are down on Jones because of the bouncer in the wheelchair and that is an incident that isn't adequately described by the term "unfortunate".

But, the league set out his punishment and he paid his dues. I believe he should have been given a clean slate or, not been re-admitted at all. It seems this last offense was bagatelle.

[Patler]

Well, not knowing the full story doesn't help. I think Goodell is using this kid as an example. It's too bad.

I know a lot of posters are down on Jones because of the bouncer in the wheelchair and that is an incident that isn't adequately described by the term "unfortunate".

But, the league set out his punishment and he paid his dues. I believe he should have been given a clean slate or, not been re-admitted at all. It seems this last offense was bagatelle.

What's wrong with a middle ground, of re-instatement with conditions? For him that should have been preferable to sitting out another season. Apparently he was told that an alcohol related incident would lead to another suspension. He didn't change his life style enough, and now he is paying for it.

I don't have a problem with a "no tolerance" attitude with a re-instated player who runs into trouble in exactly the same environment that got him in trouble earlier.

[Zool]

Well, not knowing the full story doesn't help. I think Goodell is using this kid as an example. It's too bad.

I know a lot of posters are down on Jones because of the bouncer in the wheelchair and that is an incident that isn't adequately described by the term "unfortunate".

But, the league set out his punishment and he paid his dues. I believe he should have been given a clean slate or, not been re-admitted at all. It seems this last offense was bagatelle.

Part of his probation for a court ruling in Georgia was that Jones was not to have alcohol of any kind. He was drinking and therefore in violation of his probation. Part of his reinstatement back to the NFL stated that he must complete all of his probation.

The guy fucks up continually. He's not being made an example of. He's a moron with everything to lose and no idea how to stay on it.

[Tarlam!]

OK, Patler, Zool, call me stupid, but the guy paid his NFL dues.

It's not like a suspended sentence in the real world. The NFL said to Jones, you will sit and be clean for 12 months and then, we'll think about letting you back in.

They let him back in. Maybe they shouldn't have, but they did.

He did his time and I say, the NFL should not have attached any strings after he did his time. He shoulda had a clean slate.

I am all for punishing renegades. I have no reason to stick up for Jones, personally. It's just the principle of the thing.

[Deputy Nutz]

OK, Patler, Zool, call me stupid, but the guy paid his NFL dues.

It's not like a suspended sentence in the real world. The NFL said to Jones, you will sit and be clean for 12 months and then, we'll think about letting you back in.

They let him back in. Maybe they shouldn't have, but they did.

He did his time and I say, the NFL should not have attached any strings after he did his time. He shoulda had a clean slate.

I am all for punishing renegades. I have no reason to stick up for Jones, personally. It's just the principle of the thing.

The guy is a continual black eye for the league, he hasn't had one season in the NFL without an incident. He can't keep himself out of trouble. The slate doesn't get wiped clean, he has a history and that history will follow him regardless of his last suspension. He is a royal fuck up that doesn't deserve the honor of playing in the NFL. Guys like him, and Chris Henry are being made an example, something that should have been done years ago in the NFL.

Besides, lets say a guy gets suspended for a year because of drug use, does his slate get wiped clean after he is reinstated? No after the year suspension you are booted out of the league if you are busted again, ala Dexter Manley.

[Patler]

It's not like a suspended sentence in the real world. The NFL said to Jones, you will sit and be clean for 12 months and then, we'll think about letting you back in.

They let him back in. Maybe they shouldn't have, but they did.

He did his time and I say, the NFL should not have attached any strings after he did his time. He shoulda had a clean slate.

I am all for punishing renegades. I have no reason to stick up for Jones, personally. It's just the principle of the thing.

I agree, the NFL told him he would sit for a year, and then they would think about letting him back in. When the year came and went, they thought about it and decided to let him back in with conditions. I suppose he could have refused their offer of conditional reinstatement.

Who ever said reinstatement had to be "with a clean slate"?

[Cheesehead Craig]

I love Mark Schlereth's comments on the guy. I'm paraphrasing here:

He stated that Pacman loves the lifestyle and prestige that comes with being a football player. He loves idea of it more than actually playing the game. Mark said that the guy only thinks of himself as it's obvious by his actions and if he was Jerry Jones he would kick him off the team now. Send a message that this won't be tolerated.

I highly doubt any GM is going to sign him and his career is essentially over.

[Tarlam!]

Who ever said reinstatement had to be "with a clean slate"?

Well, I did. He did the crime and the time. My suggestion is quite simple.

[Patler]

Who ever said reinstatement had to be "with a clean slate"?

Well, I did. He did the crime and the time. My suggestion is quite simple.

Think of it as him having been let out early, on probation, for "good behavior" so to speak. They never told him a year was his full sentence. Since they could have decided to not reinstate him, it was certainly within their prerogative to let him back with conditions attached.

I'm just trying to help you here Tarlam! You'll hate yourself in the future if you side with Pacman on this one!

[Tarlam!]

Yeah, Patler, I know I'm on a deserted island on this one. I'm not siding with Jones, I'm just saying what I think is right.