TT Blows It Again?

[rbaloha1]

To date, I support TT's drafting, personnel moves and salary cap management.

Wished TT made the Randy Moss transaction but with the emergence of Jennings maybe the failure to land RM was not critical.

Was TT around when the Packers secured Keith Jackson for a second round pick? We all know what followed.

TT's failure to secure a pro bowler with huge salary cap space for a second rounder is unacceptable. Yes, the current tes are promising but have failed to deliver.

TG instantly puts the Packers right back as super bowl contender.

[Zool]

[arcilite]

Re: TT Blows It Again?

To date, I support TT's drafting, personnel moves and salary cap management.

Wished TT made the Randy Moss transaction but with the emergence of Jennings maybe the failure to land RM was not critical.

Was TT around when the Packers secured Keith Jackson for a second round pick? We all know what followed.

TT's failure to secure a pro bowler with huge salary cap space for a second rounder is unacceptable. Yes, the current tes are promising but have failed to deliver.

TG instantly puts the Packers right back as super bowl contender.

lol wut?

[MadtownPacker]

Damn, day late and a dolla short on this one...

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=15171

[sheepshead]

Re: TT Blows It Again?

To date, I support TT's drafting, personnel moves and salary cap management.

Wished TT made the Randy Moss transaction but with the emergence of Jennings maybe the failure to land RM was not critical.

Was TT around when the Packers secured Keith Jackson for a second round pick? We all know what followed.

TT's failure to secure a pro bowler with huge salary cap space for a second rounder is unacceptable. Yes, the current tes are promising but have failed to deliver.

TG instantly puts the Packers right back as super bowl contender.

http://www.esnips.com/doc/f1def9bb-b033-4a90-b4a9-a9bb2a2e5db6/Halloween---Scary-Organ-Music

[PackerTimer]

Re: TT Blows It Again?

To date, I support TT's drafting, personnel moves and salary cap management.

Wished TT made the Randy Moss transaction but with the emergence of Jennings maybe the failure to land RM was not critical.

Was TT around when the Packers secured Keith Jackson for a second round pick? We all know what followed.

TT's failure to secure a pro bowler with huge salary cap space for a second rounder is unacceptable. Yes, the current tes are promising but have failed to deliver.

TG instantly puts the Packers right back as super bowl contender.

You do know that TT was the highest bidder in offering a third, right? Obviously there weren't many people out there that thought he was worth a second. Do the people who don't like a move or non-move of TT ever look at the facts or two they get blinded by how nice it would be to have an aging, overpaid, overhyped "superstar." He has made some questionable moves but most of his non-moves have usually worked out pretty well. I'm glad TT wasn't willing to go higher than a third because TG just wasn't worth it. This is the same mentality that drives a person to pay three times what Nintedo Wii is worth on ebay because the stores are out of stock. Hell I'm thinking about voting TT for president. Good bye deficit hello fiscal responsibility.

[Patler]

I think you have to ask yourself this question:

With the Packers ability to put out 4 or even 5 quality WRs, how much would Gonzales improve the passing game?

I don't dispute is abilities. He is far better than any TE the Packers have as a receiver, but there are only so many passes completions to go around and only so many plays to be run. This is not the teams of 1995 and 1996. The Packers have very good quality and depth at WR, and some decnet receiving ability at TE. A pro bowl TE might not have the same impact on this team as Jackson had back then.

In 1995 the second leading receiver was Bennett, and Chmura was third. Then game another RB, Levens. the second leading WR was 5th on the team. Only three WRs figured at all prominently in the passing game. The TEs had a much bigger role. In 1996 there were injuries, but again only about 3 WRs had prominent parts in the passing game.

Back then, two TE formations were used for passing, because Jackson and Chmura were among the 4 best receiving options on the team, and it dropped off significantly after that. Even though Gonzales would be the best TE on the roster, the TEs are not enough of a focus on the team for the impact to be as great.

[Patler]

Re: TT Blows It Again?

You do know that TT was the highest bidder in offering a third, right? Obviously there weren't many people out there that thought he was worth a second.

Not to mention that two of the teams were the Giants and Eagles, who seem to have more glaring needs for a starting TE than the Packers. If anyone should have been interested in perhaps spending a bit more than they hoped, it should have been the Giants or Eagles. Yet apparently TT outbid them.

[mraynrand]

Re: TT Blows It Again?

TG instantly puts the Packers right back as super bowl contender.

I think this would be true, if he could rush the passer like an Osi Umenyiora.

[mraynrand]

Re: TT Blows It Again?

You do know that TT was the highest bidder in offering a third, right? Obviously there weren't many people out there that thought he was worth a second.

Not to mention that two of the teams were the Giants and Eagles, who seem to have more glaring needs for a starting TE than the Packers. If anyone should have been interested in perhaps spending a bit more than they hoped, it should have been the Giants or Eagles. Yet apparently TT outbid them.

SCORE! AND SCORE AGAIN!

[cheesner]

How many times does TT have to be right before these annoying posts go away?


Thread in 2012 after 3 Packer superbowl victories:


TT Screws up again!

Just like when he missed out on moss and TG, TT blows it again. I saw him filling up his truck at Citgo which is at $8.33/gal and Texaco is only $8.21/gal one block away!

[steve823]

Tony G is great but wasnt worth it. We dont need a TE that badly. We need to improve our run D and they would make our defense complete. (barring injury of course) Now if somebody like Marcus Stroud was a free agent I would say hell give a 2nd OR our 3rd + 3/4th we get from Jets. If TT got Marcus Stround instead of him going to buffalo our d would be a lot more solid.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think you have to ask yourself this question:

With the Packers ability to put out 4 or even 5 quality WRs, how much would Gonzales improve the passing game?

I don't dispute is abilities. He is far better than any TE the Packers have as a receiver, but there are only so many passes completions to go around and only so many plays to be run. This is not the teams of 1995 and 1996. The Packers have very good quality and depth at WR, and some decnet receiving ability at TE. A pro bowl TE might not have the same impact on this team as Jackson had back then.

In 1995 the second leading receiver was Bennett, and Chmura was third. Then game another RB, Levens. the second leading WR was 5th on the team. Only three WRs figured at all prominently in the passing game. The TEs had a much bigger role. In 1996 there were injuries, but again only about 3 WRs had prominent parts in the passing game.

Back then, two TE formations were used for passing, because Jackson and Chmura were among the 4 best receiving options on the team, and it dropped off significantly after that. Even though Gonzales would be the best TE on the roster, the TEs are not enough of a focus on the team for the impact to be as great.

Tight Ends cause match up problems for the defense in terms of physical stature that 4 or 5 receivers can't. You have to force a team to either commit a linebacker to guarding Gonzalez which he usually out classes with speed and athletiscm or a safety which can't simply match the height and bulk of a tight end like Gonzalez. So then teams will use a cover scheme of a safety and linebacker, one short and one deep, hence taking two defenders to cover on tight end which in terms opens up the field for your receivers. A good quality tight end that can run will also crush the cover two, something a wide receiver can't do because defenses will substitute extra backs into the game.

I don't think I would have given up a number 2 for Gonzalez, maybe if he wasn't make a boat load of cash, but I don't know if he was even close to the same player he was 3 years ago. He is aging and quite possibly not worth his contract anymore.

But since I hate Ted Thompson and wish he would die by death of Tape Worm he failed not getting a hall of fame player in Green Bay, I heard he has a severe dislike to anyone with a destination to Canton.

[Tarlam!]

But since I hate Ted Thompson and wish he would die by death of Tape Worm he failed not getting a hall of fame player in Green Bay, I heard he has a severe dislike to anyone with a destination to Canton.

You sick fuck! So, how are the wife and kids?

[Deputy Nutz]

But since I hate Ted Thompson and wish he would die by death of Tape Worm he failed not getting a hall of fame player in Green Bay, I heard he has a severe dislike to anyone with a destination to Canton.

You sick fuck! So, how are the wife and kids?

Emotionally distraught after I told them about your lack of income. I need a nanny if you are interested? I got a fat cousin that has been looking for a husband for some time now, I think she is a real catch, any interest?