TT Blows It Again?

[mraynrand]

[rbaloha1]

Thanks for all the great replies.

Surprised there was not more outrage for not signing TG. Imagine the noise if this occurred around the Favre drama.

Still maintain TT should have given up a second round pick. Does a second round pick have the same impact as TG?

Oh well at least the cap space allows to sign A-Rod and GJ which IMO takes priority over acquiring TG.

[cheesner]

Surprised there was not more outrage for not signing TG. Imagine the noise if this occurred around the Favre drama.

I think most fans love the direction the Packers are headed in. Much of this would not have been possible if TT had signed a bunch of free agents.

Still maintain TT should have given up a second round pick. Does a second round pick have the same impact as TG?

Probably. Jennings was a second round pick - obviously at this stage of their careers Jennings is far more valuable. I would rather have a young 2nd rounder with potential at a reasonable salary for potentially his entire career than to have a very expensive TG for a short while.

Oh well at least the cap space allows to sign A-Rod and GJ which IMO takes priority over acquiring TG.

That is the point. Signing guys like TG makes it difficult to sign guys like GJ and ARod. I know it can be done mathematically, but somewhere on the roster or in the near future, you will suffer.

[bbbffl66]

Surprised there was not more outrage for not signing TG. Imagine the noise if this occurred around the Favre drama.

I think most fans love the direction the Packers are headed in. Much of this would not have been possible if TT had signed a bunch of free agents.

Still maintain TT should have given up a second round pick. Does a second round pick have the same impact as TG?

Probably. Jennings was a second round pick - obviously at this stage of their careers Jennings is far more valuable. I would rather have a young 2nd rounder with potential at a reasonable salary for potentially his entire career than to have a very expensive TG for a short while.

Oh well at least the cap space allows to sign A-Rod and GJ which IMO takes priority over acquiring TG.

That is the point. Signing guys like TG makes it difficult to sign guys like GJ and ARod. I know it can be done mathematically, but somewhere on the roster or in the near future, you will suffer.

Perpetual mediocre teams will make us all suffer.

[Patler]

I don't see much in the terms of athletic ability and football talent between a 4th defensive back and a number 4 wide receiver, in fact I favor the defensive back in that case.

Depends on the depth of the WR corp. When Jackson made such a difference for the Packers in '95 and '96 I would agree, or maybe even say the 5th or 6th DB of most teams would have had an advantage over the Packers 4th and 5th receivers (Mickens, Mayes, etc.) With the current group of Packer WRs, assuming Jones were healthy, I think the advantage goes to the Packers matching the depth of their group of wide receivers against the depth of most teams defensive backfields.

[Patler]

but the big plays from the tight end is on early downs when they draw favorable matchups against guys like Brady Poppinga.

Or, when you force the other team to put in a Chillar - or even an extra defensive back - to stay with you in coverage, and then you gash them in the run game (but that requires at least some ability of the TE to block).

I don't disagree with that, but you can achieve favorable running matchups putting in WRs too, by getting one or two of the linebackers off the field and much smaller, less willing to tackle nickel and dime cover guys on. Especially if you have decent blocking WRs like Ruvell Martin and even Driver to some extent. Nelson looks like he will be a good one with more practice at it. He is a very willing blocker.

Again, I'm not disputing that Gonzales could have provided different options and strengths. I just don't think his addition to this team would have had the same impact as Jackson did to the team in '95 and '96, most because of the strength of the current WR corp.