Is Bigby missed for more than just his ability?

[Patler]

It has been obvious that the Packer D has been less intense, less forceful, with less swagger than last year. Pickett mentioned that watching film from last year was shocking, the speed and intensity are missing.

Bigby was as intense and as animated as anyone on the defense last year. He played with an attitude. Do they miss that perhaps even more than his actual performance?

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: Is Bigby missed for more than just his ability?

It has been obvious that the Packer D has been less intense, less forceful, with less swagger than last year. Pickett mentioned that watching film from last year was shocking, the speed and intensity are missing.

Bigby was as intense and as animated as anyone on the defense last year. He played with an attitude. Do they miss that perhaps even more than his actual performance?

I've been thinking of making the same thread too. Bigby was a force on the run for sure..and mad plays in the pass. When did anyone go, we lost that game because Bigby was out of the play? Not often with 3 losses at 13-3 last year, but seems likely with the 3 losses going to 3-3 this year WITHOUT him. Good topic Patler.....dude's intense and made us better. Is he playing this week?

[Patler]

Re: Is Bigby missed for more than just his ability?

It has been obvious that the Packer D has been less intense, less forceful, with less swagger than last year. Pickett mentioned that watching film from last year was shocking, the speed and intensity are missing.

Bigby was as intense and as animated as anyone on the defense last year. He played with an attitude. Do they miss that perhaps even more than his actual performance?

I've been thinking of making the same thread too. Bigby was a force on the run for sure..and mad plays in the pass. When did anyone go, we lost that game because Bigby was out of the play? Not often with 3 losses at 13-3 last year, but seems likely with the 3 losses going to 3-3 this year WITHOUT him. Good topic Patler.....dude's intense and made us better. Is he playing this week?

To be fair, there was a time early last season that I questioned if the Packers could survive his learning curve, but they still won as it turned out. Even some writers questioned whether he would develop a feel for the passing game, or just remain a big hitter. It clicked in for him the last half of the season with some nice interceptions.

This week? Apparently he practiced on Thursday after passing his running and strength test on Wednesday, and is expected to play this week, but may not start after doing virtually nothing for a month.

[Gunakor]

Re: Is Bigby missed for more than just his ability?

It has been obvious that the Packer D has been less intense, less forceful, with less swagger than last year. Pickett mentioned that watching film from last year was shocking, the speed and intensity are missing.

Bigby was as intense and as animated as anyone on the defense last year. He played with an attitude. Do they miss that perhaps even more than his actual performance?

I've been thinking of making the same thread too. Bigby was a force on the run for sure..and mad plays in the pass. When did anyone go, we lost that game because Bigby was out of the play? Not often with 3 losses at 13-3 last year, but seems likely with the 3 losses going to 3-3 this year WITHOUT him. Good topic Patler.....dude's intense and made us better. Is he playing this week?

I hear there's a chance Bigby will play this week, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. It's not likely they'd throw him out there the week before the bye if he's not 100%. I'd wager he'll be back following the bye.

Is Aaron Rouse healthy enough to play this week, or would we see Peprah again if Bigby still isn't good to go?

As to the original topic, absolutely. But that lack of intensity has been a problem with quite a few players on our defense who played with attitude last season. I'm hoping that Bigby's return - or more likely the first time he puts the hurt on an opposing RB or WR - will fire these guys up and raise the intensity level of the entire unit.

[Patler]

The MJS pointed out that Barnett was fined in each of the first two games for aggressive hits, after also turning over a game check to the league for his bar scuffle. They questioned if that curbed his intensity. It may have.

[Fritz]

Those sorts of incidents do tend to change people's behaviors - most often though only for a period of time. Then people usually go back to their old patterns. I suspect Barnett will revert to form as time passes, and perhaps when he sees Bigby crunching some wide receiver.

[DonHutson]

Big hits are contagious. No question. Bigby is a tone-setter and that has been missed for sure.

But I think that's only part of it. Injuries to the DL have made them less effective, meaning more blockers get to the LB's quicker. Thus, the LB's have less space to gear up and knock somebody out.

Replacing Jenkins with Thompson and KGB costs a lot in terms of physicality as well.

Hawk's groin is likely slowing him down a bit, keeping him from making the big hit.

[steve823]

Re: Is Bigby missed for more than just his ability?

It has been obvious that the Packer D has been less intense, less forceful, with less swagger than last year. Pickett mentioned that watching film from last year was shocking, the speed and intensity are missing.

Bigby was as intense and as animated as anyone on the defense last year. He played with an attitude. Do they miss that perhaps even more than his actual performance?

I've been thinking of making the same thread too. Bigby was a force on the run for sure..and mad plays in the pass. When did anyone go, we lost that game because Bigby was out of the play? Not often with 3 losses at 13-3 last year, but seems likely with the 3 losses going to 3-3 this year WITHOUT him. Good topic Patler.....dude's intense and made us better. Is he playing this week?

I hear there's a chance Bigby will play this week, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. It's not likely they'd throw him out there the week before the bye if he's not 100%. I'd wager he'll be back following the bye.

Is Aaron Rouse healthy enough to play this week, or would we see Peprah again if Bigby still isn't good to go?

As to the original topic, absolutely. But that lack of intensity has been a problem with quite a few players on our defense who played with attitude last season. I'm hoping that Bigby's return - or more likely the first time he puts the hurt on an opposing RB or WR - will fire these guys up and raise the intensity level of the entire unit.

If Peprah is starting the Colts will rip him apart. I hope at least Rouse or Bigby starts.

[mraynrand]

I suspect Barnett will revert to form as time passes

False steps?

[Joemailman]

Re: Is Bigby missed for more than just his ability?

It has been obvious that the Packer D has been less intense, less forceful, with less swagger than last year. Pickett mentioned that watching film from last year was shocking, the speed and intensity are missing.

Bigby was as intense and as animated as anyone on the defense last year. He played with an attitude. Do they miss that perhaps even more than his actual performance?

I've been thinking of making the same thread too. Bigby was a force on the run for sure..and mad plays in the pass. When did anyone go, we lost that game because Bigby was out of the play? Not often with 3 losses at 13-3 last year, but seems likely with the 3 losses going to 3-3 this year WITHOUT him. Good topic Patler.....dude's intense and made us better. Is he playing this week?

I hear there's a chance Bigby will play this week, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. It's not likely they'd throw him out there the week before the bye if he's not 100%. I'd wager he'll be back following the bye.

Is Aaron Rouse healthy enough to play this week, or would we see Peprah again if Bigby still isn't good to go?

As to the original topic, absolutely. But that lack of intensity has been a problem with quite a few players on our defense who played with attitude last season. I'm hoping that Bigby's return - or more likely the first time he puts the hurt on an opposing RB or WR - will fire these guys up and raise the intensity level of the entire unit.

Bigby is doubtful, and will probably not play.http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/ar...-doubtful.aspx

No decision yet on whether to activate Harrell.

[MateoInMex]

Re: Is Bigby missed for more than just his ability?

It has been obvious that the Packer D has been less intense, less forceful, with less swagger than last year. Pickett mentioned that watching film from last year was shocking, the speed and intensity are missing.

Bigby was as intense and as animated as anyone on the defense last year. He played with an attitude. Do they miss that perhaps even more than his actual performance?

I remember watching the NFL playoffs in Mexico last year and in January with some brothers-in-law. They're trying to understand the American game of football, but all 3 and my Father-In-Law fell loved the play of Atari Bigby. He always plays without fear and he's all over the field.

When's he coming back anyway? Ah, just read JoeMailman's post.

[bobblehead]

We miss him a lot...I'm pretty sure I was complaining when Grant was holding out because I thought bigby was just as deserving of a long term deal....man was HUGE last 6-7 games of last season. I personally wanted TT to offer them both a minimum tender with 1 million bonus and a promise to work on a long deal midway thru this year...but alas...TT doesn't read my posts.

[RashanGary]

With the way Collins and Tramon are playing our secondary could be pretty great when we get Al and Atari back. Too bad our DL is so mediocre.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I wish I could find the thread from the end of the 2007 training camp where everyone was convinced that Bigby was a bum who was sure to be cut.

[packers11]

I wish I could find the thread from the end of the 2007 training camp where everyone was convinced that Bigby was a bum who was sure to be cut.

I remember everyone bashed him after the Steelers preseason game...

found the highlights...

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80168590