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  • Originally posted by cpk1994
    Originally posted by th87
    It is very odd (telling?) that ESPN hasn't even reported on this. Like the allegation had never even occurred.

    Glazer was the first person to report Favre's retirement, and his comeback, and a host of other things. He's generally regarded as the best investigative reporter in the business. Much has been made about how he sleeps with his cellphone plugged in his ear. A highly respected journalist.

    So are we to believe that he'd put all that on the line and ostensibly ruin his career by making some rumor up about the most beloved player in the league? I would doubt that.
    I think there is some truth to Glazer's report. "How Much?" is the real question.
    I'd say there's enough for it to be news. Glazer wouldn't risk his career making things up, just like TT wouldn't risk his career by making personnel decisions based on "ego".

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    • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
      I'm not sure I buy that. This is a big story, and if there's any truth to it at all, they'll eventually have to report on it.

      I doubt the media is even covering the story out in Jets land. Its a big story in packer chat rooms and talk radio.

      If people are cool with Favre's behavior last summer, they can easily sweep this latest scorned Diva incident under the carpet. Those who find Favre to be an embarassment aren't going to be phased by it either, its just more of the same.

      Its not a big story, especially since it will never be proved one way or another. Just another fart in the wind, as Ron Wolf would say.

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      • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
        I'm not sure I buy that. This is a big story, and if there's any truth to it at all, they'll eventually have to report on it.

        I doubt the media is even covering the story out in Jets land. Its a big story in packer chat rooms and talk radio.

        If people are cool with Favre's behavior last summer, they can easily sweep this latest scorned Diva incident under the carpet. Those who find Favre to be an embarassment aren't going to be phased by it either, its just more of the same.

        Its not a big story, especially since it will never be proved one way or another. Just another fart in the wind, as Ron Wolf would say.
        Well you would be wrong as the NY Post has it on its website and it is an AP story so its more than just chat rooms and talk radio:

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        • Originally posted by cpk1994
          Originally posted by Bretsky
          All this shit is laughable

          If you listen to ESPN radio or watch their telecasts you might have noticed that they are not reporting on the incident. WHY ?

          Bottom line is
          Glazer from Fox said his soures tell him it's 100% true
          ESPN football guys say their sources tell them it's inaccurate

          One more step to the bottom line

          If you don't care for Favre you will most likely believe FOX

          If you do still have a liking for Favre you will most likely believe ESPN
          Or ESPN isn't reporting it becuae they got seriously out scooped. Also, The NFL guys at ESPN(Mort, Gene W.) are not about to upset their golden goose.
          They are not about to report that makes Favre look bad, lest they lose those insider "texts" they get from Brett. ESPN has been known for sometime to be a heavily Pro-Favre zone. And of course they are going to say its inaccurate becuase they got out scooped. Basically, ESPN's silence is deafening becuase it enhances the notion that ESPN licks Favre's boots, warranted or not.
          You realize Glazer broke the Favre retirement story and they still reported that, right

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          • The thing that doesn't really hold water for me here is "why would Brett Favre help the Lions win a football game?" The Lions players and coaches don't even do that, and they have a much better reason to do so. The only way this actually makes sense is if Brett is madder than he his smart, which is entirely possible come to think of it.
            </delurk>

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            • Originally posted by Lurker64
              The thing that doesn't really hold water for me here is "why would Brett Favre help the Lions win a football game?" The Lions players and coaches don't even do that, and they have a much better reason to do so. The only way this actually makes sense is if Brett is madder than he his smart, which is entirely possible come to think of it.

              bretts not dumb by any stretch
              They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

              Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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              • Reason for ESPN's silence on this???

                Tired of being deemed a "hater" by some, so read and decide for yourself.....

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                • Originally posted by The Shadow
                  "If he called Millen,
                  Dude's a villian!"

                  LMAO
                  They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                  Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                  • Do you believe one one guy (Glazer or Favre) or do you believe everyone else.

                    Until there is more than one nut job as a source, you should remain neutral at least on the issue.

                    Favre haters will believe it and Favre fans will deny unsubstantiated rumors and gossip.

                    Yelling at each other will not produce facts.

                    It amazes me how many of you just don't track how accurate or inaccurate some media people are and their track record on liking or disliking certain players and teams!!

                    Don't give them a fresh pass on every new story. Especially any low life lawyer.......................... let alone one named Florio.

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                    • Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      Isn't that where Tank claimed to have gone?
                      dont draw THAT parellel
                      They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                      Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                      • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        I for one choose not to believe it. I would really hate for this to be true because I would really lose all the respect I have ever had for Favre, and for all of you that know me on this forum no that is a hell of a lot.

                        I for one understand a vendetta, but to have done this, that means Favre would have thrown all of his former teammates under the bus, and that to a man just isn't right. If you are that pissed at TT and McCarthy to do something like that why not just seriously bash them in the media, and relay even more of your private conversations with Thompson and McCarthy.

                        I agree with what Charles Woodson said about it, but again I just can't believe that it is true, and if it is found to be false either Glazer needs to reveal his sources, or he needs to get his ass kicked.

                        QFT
                        They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                        Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                        • Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez
                          Do you believe one one guy (Glazer or Favre) or do you believe everyone else.
                          Did I miss something? Exactly who do you think "everyone else" is? The person who wrote the ESPN memo? Favre? Is that really everyone else? You could probably be more biased in how you frame the argument, but I'm not quite sure how.

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                          • For those who still care, Florio got a copy of the internal ESPN memo blackballing the Favre-Millen story.

                            Under the heading “DO NOT REPORT . . . DO NOT REPORT . . . . DO NOT REPORT . . . DO NOT REPORT” (um, we get the point) appears the following:

                            “Yesterday, FoxSports reported that Brett Favre spent 60 to 90 minutes before the Week Two game between the Lions and the Packers educating the Detroit coaching staff regarding the Packers’ offensive strategies. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY RELIABLE SOURCES THIS REPORT IS NOT TRUE. We did NOT report it yesterday. Today, the NFL responded to the report, saying even if Favre did this he did not break any league rules. We are NOT reporting it today, because that would mean airing the erroneous report. DO NOT REPORT IT.”
                            You should probably read the whole PFT analysis of this memo as they have a couple of good points: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...n-favre-story/

                            This is some serious Rove-esque message control by ESPN though. The story is out there and news worthy, so why not even mention it if only to deny its validity? If they don't watch out, their lack of reporting on this story will become a story in its own right.

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                            • Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez
                              Until there is more than one nut job as a source, you should remain neutral at least on the issue.
                              The story was reported by TWO journalists, Glazer and Wilde, both of them had the story corroborated by more than one source.

                              Glazer and Wilde both have solid reputations, not sure where the "nut job" comes from.

                              Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez
                              Favre haters will believe it and Favre fans will deny unsubstantiated rumors and gossip.
                              It's true that all we really have to go on are the reputations of those two reporters, but calling it "rumors and gossip" doesn't make it so.

                              My opinion is that the story is mostly true, in that Favre had some conversations with the Lions about the Packers. It is impossible to think that Wilde and Glazer don't have a basis. But I also guess that it all happened informally, and didn't amount to much. Probably poor judgment on Favre's part, but not something he planned out.

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                              • Originally posted by Bretsky
                                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                                I wonder what it would take for the Favre Fans to see their hero for what he is - a spoiled man-child.


                                My guess is that there is nothing that will shake them out of their devotion. Maybe a cult deprogrammer, armed with heavy medication, could crack a few. There will always be some way to look at events that paint Favre as a victim.

                                I'm way too strong to be broken
                                Pffftttt. All they'd have to do is tell you he was anti-lesbian and thinks all porn should be banned and you'd turn on him in a heartbeat.
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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