BRETT DENIES REPORTS....

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't care too much about this story, except as usual I am keen to hold the Ultimate Favre Fans' feet to the fire.

Last summer when Favre acted like a complete prima donna, the excuse from the UFFs was "TT must have done something really horrible to him. We don't know everything." Favre demands a release so he can play for the Vikings and seek bloody revenge; the response from the UFFs, "Just let him play."

Now Favre gets caught (evidently) trying to sabotage the team for revenge, and the UFF response, "Everybody does it."

Actually I exaggerate, most of the UFFs are in quiet mourning, even Partial has retracted his statement. So I am being a dick for rubbing it in.

I think the UFFs are like parents who adore their kid so much that they can't see how little junior is being disruptive at school. A better analogy is the dewy-eyed dog owner, they're the worst, with a snarling mutt. "Don't be afraid, he won't bite, he's actually very friendly."

[arcilite]

Well, where there is smoke there is usually fire.


Jim Rome made an interesting point, out of all the comments by Packers players nobody said 'Favre would NEVER do anything like that'.

Kinda makes you think.

[Fritz]

First, let's wait and see before we crucify the guy. Maybe it's crap, or maybe it's been exaggerated.

Secondly, if it is true, then wow - Brett is a very bitter dude. If that is so, then I think maybe we will get lucky and Brett will soon be posting on Packerrats.com secret insider info (what will his avatar and name be, I wonder?) about which Packer players and managment are "undersized" in the man department...

[mmmdk]

The truth? Probably won't see the truth on this side of the dark moon.

...but I do know that Brett Favre busted his ass to get Randy Moss to the Green Bay Packers What the F@ck does that intail? Randy is quirky but smart & Brett is quirky but NOT SMART - so go figure 'not so Brady/brainy-like Brett. Favre doesn't lie about what he believes is the truth...he could work for McCain?

[CaliforniaCheez]

Why would anyone believe anything without a shred of evidence when denials have been made.

The burden of proof is on the accuser.

What has happened when people will believe a greasy louidmouthed slimeball in LA without direct quotes from those allegedly involved over a direct denial of one allegedly involved.

It is up to the accuser to present facts supporting the conclusion and that hasn't happened.

Some just jump in without checking how deep it is.

[sharpe1027]

Why would anyone believe anything without a shred of evidence when denials have been made.

The burden of proof is on the accuser.

I didn't know there were burden of proof rules for peopling making their personal opinions.

Evidence:
Multiple sources provide some level of confirmation.
Media has been known to break false stories.
The Lions chose not to deny it.
Favre denied it.
Favre has a recent history of being less than truthful.
Favre has an axe to grind.

Reasonable people could disagree on what likely happened. I tend to think there might be something to this, mostly based upon the Lions lack of a response. My guess is that the Lions are trying to make sure that it can't be proven before they deny it and then end up getting caught lying.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Why would anyone believe anything without a shred of evidence when denials have been made.

The burden of proof is on the accuser.

I didn't know there were burden of proof rules for peopling making their personal opinions.

Evidence:
Multiple sources provide some level of confirmation. NAME ONE!!
Media has been known to break false stories.
The Lions chose not to deny it.
Favre denied it.
Favre has a recent history of being less than truthful. When??
Favre has an axe to grind.

Reasonable people could disagree on what likely happened. I tend to think there might be something to this, mostly based upon the Lions lack of a response. My guess is that the Lions are trying to make sure that it can't be proven before they deny it and then end up getting caught lying.

Absence of evidence is not evidence. If the Lions say "no comment" it doesn't mean anything except they don't want to be involved.

[Tony Oday]

Jay Glazer seems to be well connected in the NFL as well.

[SkinBasket]

OOooohhh! Can we get a fist fight to defend Brett's virgin honor?

[sharpe1027]

Absence of evidence is not evidence.

evidence: that which tends to prove or disprove something

What the Lions say or do not say is evidence.

If the Lions say "no comment" it doesn't mean anything except they don't want to be involved.

It means they chose not to refute the allegations. I understand that I can't be sure that my opinion is correct; that doesn't mean I can't look at the situation and form an opinion from what evidence is out there.

[run pMc]

Unfortunately, I don't think Brett's word alone carries much credibility. All of his retirement shenanigans have turned him into the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

I think this story will have some legs to it because Favre is a popular player. I don't know why Glazer (or any reporter) would report this without verifying their sources, but I think more details will come out. Until then, I'm reserving judgement...innocent until proven guilty and so forth. All the same, the fact that Favre's honesty and character are being called into question because of his past behavior does not reflect well on him.

He's a first-ballot HOF, but if this story is true the "first-ballot" part is in jeopardy.

[ThunderDan]

Unfortunately, I don't think Brett's word alone carries much credibility. All of his retirement shenanigans have turned him into the Boy Who Cried Wolf.

I think this story will have some legs to it because Favre is a popular player. I don't know why Glazer (or any reporter) would report this without verifying their sources, but I think more details will come out. Until then, I'm reserving judgement...innocent until proven guilty and so forth. All the same, the fact that Favre's honesty and character are being called into question because of his past behavior does not reflect well on him.

He's a first-ballot HOF, but if this story is true the "first-ballot" part is in jeopardy.

run pMc -

I disagree. Favre is a first ballot HOF period no matter what. Unless he pulled a Pete Rose.

[The Shadow]

Thanks for the memories Brett!

That being said I hope you don't believe in Karma because as they say in Ebonics, you be F*cked. Keep a little dignity be above this, you were an everyman and thats why people loved you, know you are a spoiled little brat that didn't get his way. Please just go away.

Knowing when it's time to leave, and doing it with grace and dignity is a true character test.
Whatever the fallout of this particular episode happens to be, I don't think anyone should be all that surprised, based on what we have seen previously from the player off the field.
And yup, Brett, that ol' karma can surely be a bitch.

[Bretsky]

Maybe nobody cares, but ESPN sources are not reporting this because they believe it to be inaccurate. This came from ESPN 1070 Radio in case anybody calls for a source.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Maybe nobody cares, but ESPN sources are not reporting this because they believe it to be inaccurate. This came from ESPN 1070 Radio in case anybody calls for a source.

It will be interesting to see what happens, but I don't put much stock into ESPN not reporting on a story they didn't break. Maybe Favre text messaged Mort and told him it was B.S.