BRETT DENIES REPORTS....

[The Gunshooter]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/248391/dog_shit_on_bed/

[Patler]

The Lions??

Why the hell would he even consider detroilet when the vikings/cowboys/etc.....stood/stand to make more of the situation??

This is bs all the way.
glaizer needs to prove "sources" or stfu.

Well, you don't know that he didn't have discussions with other teams as well. Several reports have said other teams were involved, too.

I doubt it is bs all the way, too many sources supporting it. It also may not be as egregious as some suggest. Probably somewhere in the middle.

[sharpe1027]

Oh bullshit (if I may jump in here). He just wanted to play for the Pack and he was told to go away. Obviously he's going to get pissed. I guess I missed the part where he did all kinds of nasty things to the Packers before he was traded.

Now this latest thing IS NASTY. And I understand why people would be pissed.

I call bullshit right back.

Favre didn't just want to play for the Pack. If he did, he would be in uniform right now. Whatever else happened, right, wrong or indifferent, Favre was put on the roster and asked point blank if he could move on and just play football for the Packers. He said no.

I'm not saying he didn't have his reasons or that he wasn't justified, but anyone that pretends it was a simple matter of Favre wanting back and being denied is just plain wrong.

I don't know about "all kinds of nasty things," but he did and said enough things to at the very least raise some eyebrows.

[Zool]

Oh bullshit (if I may jump in here). He just wanted to play for the Pack and he was told to go away. Obviously he's going to get pissed. I guess I missed the part where he did all kinds of nasty things to the Packers before he was traded.

Now this latest thing IS NASTY. And I understand why people would be pissed.

I call bullshit right back.

Favre didn't just want to play for the Pack. If he did, he would be in uniform right now. Whatever else happened, right, wrong or indifferent, Favre was put on the roster and asked point blank if he could move on and just play football for the Packers. He said no.

I'm not saying he didn't have his reasons or that he wasn't justified, but anyone that pretends it was a simple matter of Favre wanting back and being denied is just plain wrong.

I don't know about "all kinds of nasty things," but he did and said enough things to at the very least raise some eyebrows.

Can you imagine this place if Favre was on the bench? I wouldnt even bother to login.

[cpk1994]

Lying, really? The last time I checked, the Vikings were cleared of any tampering with Favre.

And OJ was acquitted of murder. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. Walks like a duck, talks like a duck and all that.

[Bossman641]

I'm just wondering how long the ultimate Favre fans will keep making excuses for everything Favre until he stops getting the benefit of the doubt.

First it was that TT didn't call Brett and tell him they'd take him back for another year
HE DID

Then it was that TT pushed Favre into retirement and didn't give him time
HE DIDN'T

Then they said those reports of him wanting to play for another team way back in April were false
THEY WEREN'T

Then that TT must have deeply wronged Brett and that the truth would come out
HE DIDN'T, AND INSTEAD BRETT WENT ON GRETA AND LOOKED LIKE AN IDIOT

Where does it stop?

Glazer would have nothing to gain by lying about this. It's not like he's some up and coming reporter trying to scoop a new story. He's already well-connected and one of the better informed in the business IMO.

[NewsBruin]

I've skimmed the thread, and I wanted to pop in these thoughts:

1. I wouldn't put it past Brett to call Packer opponents and give them 2007 coaching intelligence.

2. "Tampering" applies only to contract status, not coaching/intelligence sharing. The Vikes could be cleared of tampering, but that has nothing to do with Brett sharing information.

3. Since Glazer has been wrong before, I would like to see one of the adamant "Glazer is wrong" posters present an example. Glazer would be risking his job if he made this up out of whole cloth. He would have had to tell his editors who his sources were, and they would have believed it was worth a libel lawsuit to run with it.

Brett, whom I like on the field, has been wrong more times than the average media. I will cede the "team cell phone" angle, and I would like to know who planted that one.

4. Speaking of sources, someone mentioned Woodward and Bernstein. Their main source, who was correct, stayed anonymous until after his death.

5. Speaking of sources, the person who leaked this had to have plenty of details of what was going on, but had absolutely no interest in Brett's legacy or the Lions' reputation. If I had to guess, based on those assumptions and the timing, I would say that this came from Millen, who said "screw all" to ever wanting another job with an NFL team.

6. This is why, if your quarterback presses to attend training camp, and you don't want him, you stick him in conditioning and skill drills day-in and day-out. I think a lot got revamped in the offseason, and Brett had nothing but old news.

[Deputy Nutz]

The local ESPN radio guys said they are not reporting the story because their sources believe it to be inaccurate

The "local radio guys" you refer to are Heller & Murphy, who are Favre loyalists and TT critics. They are in denial. They know nothing.

Bill Michaels from WTMJ 620am did something really strange for a microphone holder, he actually got off his fat ass and called some people, called sources, instead of just reading what is put in front of him he did his own reporting and basically came to the conclussion that Glazer's piece is totally blown out of proportion. There was a conversation between Favre and Millen but that it certainly wasn't 90 minutes long and it didn't have anything to do with game plans. The Packers were brought up in the conversation.

Again, I ask this why the Lions and Why would it matter? The Lions most likely have the information that they needed, and quality of info Favre gave them certainly couldn't have been the as good as say the first 15 scripted plays of the game for the Packers, or the line calls which are most likely changed from 2007. If Favre is that disgruntled to call the Lions, then God help him, I am sure the Packer Talking Heads aren't helping this story alongs. Ari Flescher is probably spinning this like crazy.

[Bretsky]

The great politician in Packerland

[cpk1994]

The local ESPN radio guys said they are not reporting the story because their sources believe it to be inaccurate

The "local radio guys" you refer to are Heller & Murphy, who are Favre loyalists and TT critics. They are in denial. They know nothing.

Bill Michaels from WTMJ 620am did something really strange for a microphone holder, he actually got off his fat ass and called some people, called sources, instead of just reading what is put in front of him he did his own reporting and basically came to the conclussion that Glazer's piece is totally blown out of proportion. There was a conversation between Favre and Millen but that it certainly wasn't 90 minutes long and it didn't have anything to do with game plans. The Packers were brought up in the conversation.

Again, I ask this why the Lions and Why would it matter? The Lions most likely have the information that they needed, and quality of info Favre gave them certainly couldn't have been the as good as say the first 15 scripted plays of the game for the Packers, or the line calls which are most likely changed from 2007. If Favre is that disgruntled to call the Lions, then God help him, I am sure the Packer Talking Heads aren't helping this story alongs. Ari Flescher is probably spinning this like crazy.

So let me get this straight, Glazer, who was on this story for weeks is wrong, but Bill Michaels, who makes 3 phone calls on one day and says this is nothing is right?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Glazer's piece is totally blown out of proportion. There was a conversation between Favre and Millen but that it certainly wasn't 90 minutes long and it didn't have anything to do with game plans.

Its possible that this is the whole story. Except .... why would both Glazer and Wilde stick their necks out if this is all there is to it? Obviously some sources say there is more to it.

This story allows people to believe what they want to believe. I decided that Favre was a skunk when he demanded to be released from his contract so he could play for the Vikings. This latest story is just more of the same Diva behavior, so it seems credible.

[Deputy Nutz]

When Glazer cares to reveal his sources then I will care, same with Wilde. Wilde is a good reporter but he certainly has a distain for Favre. I am not calling Glazer full of shit, I just want to know his sources and to see if they have any cred.

Bill Micheals is very respected name in the business and I guess if you want to shit on him to prove your point then don't fuck with me when I choose to do the same to Glazer.

[Harlan Huckleby]

When Glazer cares to reveal his sources then I will care, same with Wilde. Wilde is a good reporter but he certainly has a distain for Favre. I am not calling Glazer full of shit, I just want to know his sources and to see if they have any cred.

Bill Micheals is very respected name in the business and I guess if you want to shit on him to prove your point then don't fuck with me when I choose to do the same to Glazer.

Bill Michaels found some sources that say the incident was no big deal. But that does not disapprove Wilde and Glazer's sources. They may all be credible insiders, all be telling the truth, but Wilde and Glazer's sources may simply know more.

You can't expect reporters to reveal their sources, that just doesn't happen.

[Patler]

Bill Michaels is the same guy who had inside sources who told him the Packers had finalized a trade up and would draft Reggie Bush (or was it Mario Williams?). He reported it the entire morning of the draft as fact, not even rumor.

Bill Michael's can be entertaining to listen to, giving his opinion, etc; but his investigative reporting has not been very accurate over the years.

[cpk1994]

When Glazer cares to reveal his sources then I will care, same with Wilde. Wilde is a good reporter but he certainly has a distain for Favre. I am not calling Glazer full of shit, I just want to know his sources and to see if they have any cred.

Bill Micheals is very respected name in the business and I guess if you want to shit on him to prove your point then don't fuck with me when I choose to do the same to Glazer.

Bill Michaels found some sources that say the incident was no big deal. But that does not disapprove Wilde and Glazer's sources. They may all be credible insiders, all be telling the truth, but Wilde and Glazer's sources may simply know more.

You can't expect reporters to reveal their sources, that just doesn't happen.

For all we know, Michaels souce could be Scott Favre. Speaking of whom, its amazing he hasn't spoken yet. He usally loves to run his mouth to the media any chance he gets.