BRETT DENIES REPORTS....

[Harlan Huckleby]

BTW, I think Bill Michaels is an idiot. I didn't say that earlier because I didn't want to hurt Nutz's feelings, but now that you've opened the bag...

[RashanGary]

I agree with Michaels that it was no big deal, competitively.

I believe Glazer that it happened.


At the end of the day, it's not some huge football story but it does tell a lot about Brett Favre, who he is. The crusaders who worship Favre will dismiss it. The rest of the normal population sees yet antoher stain of Favre, the persons reputation.

[mraynrand]

This latest story is just more of the same Diva behavior, so it seems credible.

I don't think this is the case. I'm not commenting on the details of the story, because it's so vague and new, I don't trust anything yet. What I am commenting on is that if Favre, on his own, sought out coaches on other teams to specifically give them a lot of advice on how to beat the Packers, this is not just more Diva stuff. It is enemy action. If true, it totally tarnishes Favre. Unforgivably tarnishes Favre. The Greta thing was pathetic and sad, but you could forgive the guy after he had essentially been divorced by a woman who he believed was lucky to be married to him. This new story, if true to the extent I describe, would finish him off.

[prsnfoto]

That is not a denial. They should have said, "there was no competitive advantage given to our organization by Brett FAvre". What they did say was very calculated, broad and full of wiggle room. They pretty much said nothing in a way to influence opinion, and made sure not to lie. Only the most ardent Favre crusaders are going to use that as closure. Anyone with a brain, on the other hand, should see right through that silliness. Same as the Marinelli, "no comment" . Yeah, real strong denial guys. Way to stamp it with your seal of honor hahaha. Anyone who believes that PM me, I have some land to sell you.

Does this not leave you out of the conversation!!!!!!! Here is some advice instead of having this infatuation with the Packers former QB why don't you start stroking your supposed new favorite player back to health so he can actually fucking contribute to the team.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ahhhh, demanding he be released so he could go play for the Vikings was also "enemy action." Its all just scorned lover stuff.

I don't think him talking to the Lions about the PAckers means all that much, it sounds like it arose out of a social conversation wiht Millan, and he went too far.

[Deputy Nutz]

Gosh Harlan you got so worked up you made a spelling error.

[GBRulz]

Does this not leave you out of the conversation!!!!!!! Here is some advice instead of having this infatuation with the Packers former QB why don't you start stroking your supposed new favorite player back to health so he can actually fucking contribute to the team.

JH is faithful to only stroking TT !! Get it right!

[prsnfoto]

Now this latest thing IS NASTY. And I understand why people would be pissed.

I think the people who are pissed about this latest incident tend to be people who stuck-by Favre in the past. Most of the "Favre haters" (which by now likely number about 80% of fans), decided that Favre was over the line a long time ago.

This comment is a blatant lie this forum is 80% the real world is way more the other way you need to go to Green Bay and talk to bar owners,vendors,ticket holders,parking lot attendants to get the real story and impact. Sales are non existant, tickets are cheap, bars are not as busy except this Sunday we did something different our bus trip normally goes to Stadium View this year we went to Brett Favre's Steakhouse for our tailgate it was packed and a a very good tailgate, we went back toward SV before the game and they were slow for a Packer game. As my group worked back to the Stadium amazingly as the three other games I have been to I could have bought tickets for face or less this did not happen during the BF era unless it was 30 degrees below zero or raining against the Lions and nobody cared. I will be the first to admit it should not be this way Rodger's has played well and I do believe it will get better as time goes on IF they win and go to the PLAYOFFS if not 80% on this forum will shed a tear when TT gets shitcanned but I hate to break the news to you most of GB will not.

[arcilite]

Now this latest thing IS NASTY. And I understand why people would be pissed.

I think the people who are pissed about this latest incident tend to be people who stuck-by Favre in the past. Most of the "Favre haters" (which by now likely number about 80% of fans), decided that Favre was over the line a long time ago.

This comment is a blatant lie this forum is 80% the real world is way more the other way you need to go to Green Bay and talk to bar owners,vendors,ticket holders,parking lot attendants to get the real story and impact. Sales are non existant, tickets are cheap, bars are not as busy except this Sunday we did something different our bus trip normally goes to Stadium View this year we went to Brett Favre's Steakhouse for our tailgate it was packed and a a very good tailgate, we went back toward SV before the game and they were slow for a Packer game. As my group worked back to the Stadium amazingly as the three other games I have been to I could have bought tickets for face or less this did not happen during the BF era unless it was 30 degrees below zero or raining against the Lions and nobody cared. I will be the first to admit it should not be this way Rodger's has played well and I do believe it will get better as time goes on IF they win and go to the PLAYOFFS if not 80% on this forum will shed a tear when TT gets shitcanned but I hate to break the news to you most of GB will not.

lol wat?

dude you're looney

[Zool]

Punctuation is good. As are line breaks. Makes your rant easier to read.

[Bossman641]

Punctuation is good. As are line breaks. Makes your rant easier to read.

I think he scribbled that rant in blood on a crumbled up piece of paper first and then decided to type it.

[mraynrand]

ahhhh, demanding he be released so he could go play for the Vikings was also "enemy action." Its all just scorned lover stuff.

I don't think him talking to the Lions about the PAckers means all that much, it sounds like it arose out of a social conversation wiht Millan, and he went too far.

I forgot about that Viking trade demand (how could I?). That's enemy action AND scored lover. I believe my reaction at the time was FUCK FAVRE!


It is looking like there will be no Favre statue next to Curly and Vince!

[HarveyWallbangers]

This comment is a blatant lie this forum is 80% the real world is way more the other way you need to go to Green Bay

Actually, they had a poll throughout Wisconsin during the Favre saga in training camp, and I was surprised that the least amount of support Favre had was in the city of Green Bay.

[Patler]

This comment is a blatant lie this forum is 80% the real world is way more the other way you need to go to Green Bay and talk to bar owners,vendors,ticket holders,parking lot attendants to get the real story and impact. Sales are non existant, tickets are cheap, bars are not as busy except this Sunday we did something different our bus trip normally goes to Stadium View this year we went to Brett Favre's Steakhouse for our tailgate it was packed and a a very good tailgate, we went back toward SV before the game and they were slow for a Packer game. As my group worked back to the Stadium amazingly as the three other games I have been to I could have bought tickets for face or less this did not happen during the BF era unless it was 30 degrees below zero or raining against the Lions and nobody cared. I will be the first to admit it should not be this way Rodger's has played well and I do believe it will get better as time goes on IF they win and go to the PLAYOFFS if not 80% on this forum will shed a tear when TT gets shitcanned but I hate to break the news to you most of GB will not.

You do realize, don't you, that this is a problem all over the league this year, not just in Green Bay? No-shows are up, sales of team goods are down, sales of associated goods and services around the stadiums are down. Its the general state of the economy. People are worried and not as willing to spend on frivolous things. Gas prices are way up. To keep the costs of a game weekend down people are spending less in bars and restaurants. Fewer people are willing to go looking for tickets, so ticket resale prices are down.

The league discussed this very issue at the owners meeting two weeks ago. The NBA has already undergone some cost cutting measures at the league level, and the NFL is considering similar measures.

As I mentioned, the NFL has recognized this to be the situation through out the league. Are fans through out the entire league in mourning because Favre is no longer in GB?

[GBRulz]

This comment is a blatant lie this forum is 80% the real world is way more the other way you need to go to Green Bay

Actually, they had a poll throughout Wisconsin during the Favre saga in training camp, and I was surprised that the least amount of support Favre had was in the city of Green Bay.

There were tons of polls going on at the time. You can't really stat facts based on what a poll says. By living here and knowing what many think of the overall situation is more credible to me, than any poll will state. Most of the GB taxpayers look at the Packers in a different way than your average fan. They look at it from a money standpoint. They want people here so the 1/2% sales tax/renovation can be paid off quicker. They know Favre brought dollars to the organization. Sure, many are glad that he's gone, but on the other hand, you have your extremists that refuse to attend a game until TT is gone from the organization.

The facts speak for themselves, it has nothing to do if you are a fan of Favre or not. He brought people to GB. People bring $$$. This year, camp attendance was way down. Last year, you couldn't touch a ticket for less than $200, this year, it's about half that. Booking a hotel on a home game weekend the day before a game was unheard of until this year. The biggest selling jersey in GB at the Jersey Store is #4 Jet's jersey. Family Night didn't sell out until the day or two before, again, unheard of. blah blah blah, you get the point.

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