KGB

[Fritz]

Nutz, I don't think you're right - I think Shermy upped KGB before any of that stuff came into play with the draft picks. I could be wrong, though.

As with so much in football, whether cutting the dude is a good idea will depend on the future - how it works out. If KGB catches on somehwere and gets ten sacks this season and Justin Harrell just gets hurt, it'll be a bad move. If KGB gets no interest at all and Harrell contributes strongly, it'll be a good move, or if the special teams with Pettway and Hunter are awesome, it'll be a good move.

One could argue this was more Pettway instead of KGB than Harrell instead of KGB.

[Deputy Nutz]

Nutz, I don't think you're right - I think Shermy upped KGB before any of that stuff came into play with the draft picks. I could be wrong, though.

As with so much in football, whether cutting the dude is a good idea will depend on the future - how it works out. If KGB catches on somehwere and gets ten sacks this season and Justin Harrell just gets hurt, it'll be a bad move. If KGB gets no interest at all and Harrell contributes strongly, it'll be a good move, or if the special teams with Pettway and Hunter are awesome, it'll be a good move.

One could argue this was more Pettway instead of KGB than Harrell instead of KGB.

The Eagles were going to make the deal with KGB, so yeah I am right because I remember Andy Reid saying that if Packers would have tagged him with the two first rounder tag they weren't going to persue, but with the 1st and 3rd they were going to go after him.

[Patler]

Nutz, I don't think you're right - I think Shermy upped KGB before any of that stuff came into play with the draft picks. I could be wrong, though.

As with so much in football, whether cutting the dude is a good idea will depend on the future - how it works out. If KGB catches on somehwere and gets ten sacks this season and Justin Harrell just gets hurt, it'll be a bad move. If KGB gets no interest at all and Harrell contributes strongly, it'll be a good move, or if the special teams with Pettway and Hunter are awesome, it'll be a good move.

One could argue this was more Pettway instead of KGB than Harrell instead of KGB.

The Eagles were going to make the deal with KGB, so yeah I am right because I remember Andy Reid saying that if Packers would have tagged him with the two first rounder tag they weren't going to persue, but with the 1st and 3rd they were going to go after him.

The Eagles never made an offer, but KGB did visit with them. He was a restricted free agent, and the Packers options were to make qualifying offers that would set their compensation if they lost him at a pick in the round he was taken, a first round pick, or a first and a third. There was no option for them to set it at two firsts.

The Packers chose the middle, a single first round pick, which Reid said he would have been willing to give up for KGB. He said at the time he probably would not have been willing to give up a first and third, however.

[Merlin]

Nothing surprises me with Thompson anymore. Short on depth on the DL? Cut one to bring one on. KGB is a class act and always has been. He is not an every down pass rusher and he didn't look as explosive this year, but then again, who does on our DL? There are other positions we could have cut, say QB. He just signed Rodgers basically for the rest of his "premier" years, why keep two rookies who don't play on Sunday? We needed the depth at DL because of injuries at that position that have haunted us for two seasons now. Doesn't make sense to me.

[DonHutson]

The Packers chose the middle, a single first round pick, which Reid said he would have been willing to give up for KGB. He said at the time he probably would not have been willing to give up a first and third, however.

The lowball offer was mistake #1. Mistake #2 was Sherman's misguided notion that by paying KGB like an everydown DE he would inherently become one.

If only it were that easy.

KGB was a one dimensional pass rusher, but a very talented one. The best years of his career were in large part wasted by leaving him on the field to get pounded in the run game down after down.

[DonHutson]

Nothing surprises me with Thompson anymore. Short on depth on the DL? Cut one to bring one on.

With Montgomery and Hunter coming back to supplement the increasingly satisfactory play of Jeremy Thompson, DE isn't really a need any more. Add in the fact that Pettway, Hunter, and Montgomery are all effective special teams players, and there's not much room left. If KGB was destined to take a backseat to all four, he likely would not have even been active most Sundays.

[prsnfoto]

Absolutely great General Manager skills by TT he gave the guy 6 million dollars because he was a class act and the Packers are so rich they can afford to piss it away it is not like they could have used it to extend Jennings we don't need his sorry ass anyways.

[prsnfoto]

i was surprised when i heard the news. wasn't surprised that somehow a Brett reference was issued. if there was a thread about some proposed new roofing material to be used on Lambeau someone would mention Brett.

I don't think his name was muttered untill the #1 hater brought it into the conversation.

Talk about an obsession.

Let it go JH, let it go.

He can't this is what happens when your momma lays down with her brotha result=JH, but hey he might actually fucking play a down this week!

[MJZiggy]

Absolutely great General Manager skills by TT he gave the guy 6 million dollars because he was a class act and the Packers are so rich they can afford to piss it away it is not like they could have used it to extend Jennings we don't need his sorry ass anyways.

Ummmmm....by Jennings, I'm assuming you are referring to the player who said he would NOT be willing to redo his deal before the end of the season?

[Patler]

Absolutely great General Manager skills by TT he gave the guy 6 million dollars because he was a class act and the Packers are so rich they can afford to piss it away it is not like they could have used it to extend Jennings we don't need his sorry ass anyways.

Well, considering KGB was second on the team in sacks in 2007 and second in QB hurries, I can understand why TT would have wanted to give him a chance to get healthy from the off season surgery before deciding if he was washed up or not. If he could have regained his 2007 form, he would have been very valuable. He played pretty well in 2007 before getting hurt.

Besides, if the Packers lose Jennings, it won't be because of too little cap room. It will simply be because the Packers decide they don't want to pay that much for him.

[DonHutson]

Besides, if the Packers lose Jennings, it won't be because of too little cap room. It will simply be because the Packers decide they don't want to pay that much for him.

There's always someone that will pay more than is sensible for any player. There's no reason to think Jennings doesn't want to be here, but he's being a tad bit coy about doing anything too soon.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: KGB

=If correct, they must like Pettway a little bit.

Maybe. I think it is more that KGB can no longer take the field without being a huge liability. HE's done.

(But I still think KGB was onsides on that one play earlier this season! )

[Harlan Huckleby]

We needed the depth at DL because of injuries at that position that have haunted us for two seasons now. Doesn't make sense to me.

KGB may be worse than than guys on practice squads around the league.

[Merlin]

You don't like the guy HH, I get it. That doesn't mean he is "worse than than guys on practice squads around the league."

[Guiness]

Yeah, he's a part of recent history, and by all indications, a good teammate and good character guy, but even when he was injury-free, he cost us probably more offsides penalties as he got sacks. It seemed like the solid majority of his sacks came in mop-up times--not very often when the game was on the line.

I have likened him to a baseball hitter with "warning track power"--a lot of near misses, not many sacks, at least at crucial times.

And this year, he hasn't even been near that good.

Way off - he could at times be a game changer. The notion that his sacks came when it didn't matter is a crock. Yes, he tended to get them in bunches on games that he 'owned' the tackle, but he had the ability to end an offensive drive.

And a class act. Some seem to think he'll go elsewhere, but I think he is done, and he's going to realize that himself and walk away. Unless some playoff bound team picks him up as a vet to shore their line, I don't think we'll see him on the field again.