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  • #31
    I think you guys are right Colin will have a good year. Cole is playing for a contract and his NFL life, if he has a good year he can demand some good money from the packers, or another team.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by K-town
      Originally posted by Nutz
      I like Collin Cole a lot. I also think that he is going to be the starter next to Pickett, but I don't think it matters all that much with how much the defensive tackles rotate. Between Cole, Jenkins, Williams, Pickett, and Allen your are looking at them dividing about 160 snaps a game between themsevles a game.

      Two defensive tackle spots, roughly 80 snaps a game, 2 x 80 = 160
      I think if our defense is out there for 80 snaps a game, something is seriously wrong (turnovers by the offense, unable to get off the field on third down, etc.). I'd prefer our defense be on the field for no more than 55-60 snaps. If I'm correct on my math, that means the opposing offense is throwing the ball between 30 and 40 times, and running the ball (hopefully with little success) for about 15-25 plays. Hence, our offense has the ball for 65-75 snaps (I'm going on the basis of about 130 plays from scrimmage per game for both teams, excluding, punts, FGs, EXPs, kickoffs and free kicks).
      If I'm wrong on my math or estimation of plays per game, I'm sure someone will helpfully point out my errors.
      This assessment is very accurate K-town. If we have to defend in 80 plays Our "D" is getting worn out and we are getting shellacked! We have to keep the oppositions offence down, to closer to 65 plays.
      ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by packbro
        I think you guys are right Colin will have a good year. Cole is playing for a contract and his NFL life, if he has a good year he can demand some good money from the packers, or another team.
        Welcome to the forum packbro. Enjoy.
        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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        • #34
          Cole played well last year, but he faces some very stiff competition, as DT is one of the deepest positions on this team. Last year the Packers finished the season with 4 DT's. I'll assume that is what they will go with this year. Pickett and Jenkins are locks. I think it is unlikely the Packers will cut Johnny Jolly, unless he is a total bust, since they have invested a draft pick in him. That would leave Cole battling with Kendrick Allen and Corey Williams for the last DT spot (I have Peterson listed as a DE). While I think Cole would likely win the battle, it cannot be considered a foregone conclusion.

          Of course, it is possible that the Packers will put Jolly on IR for the year. It is also possible that Thompson could swing a trade with a team looking for DT help. The battle at DT is sure to be one of the most interesting battles in training camp.
          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #35
            What do you think Cole is gonna do against SD this weekend?

            anyone?
            "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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            • #36
              Originally posted by K-town
              Originally posted by Nutz
              I like Collin Cole a lot. I also think that he is going to be the starter next to Pickett, but I don't think it matters all that much with how much the defensive tackles rotate. Between Cole, Jenkins, Williams, Pickett, and Allen your are looking at them dividing about 160 snaps a game between themsevles a game.

              Two defensive tackle spots, roughly 80 snaps a game, 2 x 80 = 160
              I think if our defense is out there for 80 snaps a game, something is seriously wrong (turnovers by the offense, unable to get off the field on third down, etc.). I'd prefer our defense be on the field for no more than 55-60 snaps. If I'm correct on my math, that means the opposing offense is throwing the ball between 30 and 40 times, and running the ball (hopefully with little success) for about 15-25 plays. Hence, our offense has the ball for 65-75 snaps (I'm going on the basis of about 130 plays from scrimmage per game for both teams, excluding, punts, FGs, EXPs, kickoffs and free kicks).
              If I'm wrong on my math or estimation of plays per game, I'm sure someone will helpfully point out my errors.
              That's about RIGHT.
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CaptainKickass
                What do you think Cole is gonna do against SD this weekend?

                anyone?
                He's going to play hard the way the TEAM needs him to !

                GOOD LUCK PACKERS Vs. "the Chargers" !
                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  I think it is unlikely the Packers will cut Johnny Jolly, unless he is a total bust, since they have invested a draft pick in him.
                  I don't think he'll get any special treatment being a 6th round pick. That's a pretty minimal investment.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    Originally posted by Joemailman
                    I think it is unlikely the Packers will cut Johnny Jolly, unless he is a total bust, since they have invested a draft pick in him.
                    I don't think he'll get any special treatment being a 6th round pick. That's a pretty minimal investment.
                    We are re-building and we can't keep all of the rookies unless T2 and company see something REAL.

                    FAITH - PACKERS !!
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by woodbuck27
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      I think it is unlikely the Packers will cut Johnny Jolly, unless he is a total bust, since they have invested a draft pick in him.
                      I don't think he'll get any special treatment being a 6th round pick. That's a pretty minimal investment.
                      We are re-building and we can't keep all of the rookies unless T2 and company see something REAL.

                      FAITH - PACKERS !!

                      That's another good point. With as many draft picks as we had, there are more rookies than usual in our draft class that will inevitably get their walking papers before the season begins.

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                      • #41
                        The Cole Sausage!!!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Debuty Nutz
                          The Cole Sausage!!!
                          Where's your Badge?
                          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                          • #43
                            I'm onboard.
                            "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                            • #44
                              I think he'll be underestimated and stomp on a few people. I mean who expects to be stomped on by a 6th rounder?
                              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                              • #45
                                Call me the Cole Troll if you want, but I'm not nearly ready to get on. Yes, he greatly improved last year and I like his fire..but I don't know if he'll ever be anything above average.

                                But for what it's worth, my wife thinks he has a tight @ss for a big guy. She doesn't add a lot of knowledge when she attends games with me so that stuck out a bit.


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                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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