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ya, I guess you give a nod to the packer pass defense and secondary.
all and all, I thought the Vikings played with greater intensity.
all and all, I thought the Vikings played with greater intensity.
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Agreed, but we didn't perform. Our offense is horrendous for the talent we have at that skill positions and on the line.Originally posted by Freak OutComment
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What talent on the OL?Originally posted by PartialMy signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?Comment
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Clifton - very solid left tackleOriginally posted by The Leaper
Tausch - very solid right tackle
Spitz - solid guard
Colledge - solid guard
The problem isn't the OL. They've been run blocking better lately. Pass blocking is a result of two things imo:
1) quarterback holding ball too long
2) quarterback scrambling too much, meaning OL need to block laterally as wellComment
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How long, in your opinion, should a QB have back in the pocket to scan the field and deliver the ball before you'd say he's holding it too long? That is to say, at what point does the responsibility shift from the OL not holding blocks long enough to the QB holding the ball too long? IMO if your QB has less than 3 seconds to sit comfortably in the pocket and find the open guy to deliver the pass to, the OL is not doing it's job. If your QB is consistently getting 4+ seconds in the pocket and is still getting sacked, that's on the QB.Originally posted by Partial
Specifically concerning the Vikings game, how many times did Rodgers have 3 or more seconds in the pocket (not by having to create time by rolling out, but actually sitting in the pocket comfortably)? Maybe a few. Most of the time the pocket was collapsing within 2 seconds after the snap, and that's just not enough time for anything but a quick slant or a very short crossing pattern. It's not nearly enough time to let a downfield pattern develop.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to growComment
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Packers can still make the playoffs.
The changes imo are with the oline. Clifton's time may be up. Josh Sitton needs to be inserted at RG and Colledge at LT. Unsure if Spitz replaces Wells.
Wish Hodge was around to replace Barnett. Bishop still makes me nervous.Comment
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Its also hard to step up into a pocket that isn't there from the start.Originally posted by GunakorComment
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Originally posted by rbaloha
I agree, that Clifton may need to sit. Actually against Tennessee I felt more comfortable with Colledge at Tackle when Cliffy had to leave the game. Clifton has just struggled in the past two games, he's been struggling since week 3, and his false starts are drive killers. Especially the one where the Packers had to settle for a FG to make it 27-21. The Pack had the Vikes in Defense to completely exploit over the top to Jennings for an easy TD, but ol' twitchin' Clifton had to do his normal false start. I like Cliffy, and appreciate all his great years of protecting our QB. But I think it may be time to move into a different direction, and give Colledge a shot at Tackle, and Sitton a shot at guard.Comment
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packs last two loses were in OT to tenn and 1 point to queens
then a blowout of div leadn bears
NOT BAD...
forcast is above decent imo
my 11-5 prediction may be fufilled yet
RUN DAT BALL!They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!
Brew Crew in 2011!!!Comment
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If the line can play that way the rest of the season were golden.Originally posted by MOBB DEEPC.H.U.D.Comment
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Yep. That will let the skill players, where I believe we have some of the finest talent in the league, play their game. I don't think many teams can touch us if we win in the trenches.Originally posted by Freak OutComment
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Its looking good we win the division.
If the o-line continues performing as against the Bears the Packers are capable of winning the NFC.Comment
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Very impressive win, and I agree that the Packers can make a run for the playoffs if their o-line continues to play at a high level. I just hope there will be some consistency.Originally posted by rbaloha
In all fairness, the o-line was next to perfect, but since Bob Babitch took over as Defensive Coordinator for the Bears, the telling story is his defense has went from #5 in the league to #28. The Vikings have a better defense and the Packers made mistake after mistake after penalty after flag after false start against the Vikings.
The loss in the Metrodome was a very big one. Honestly, I think 9-7 probably wins the division, but GB will probably have to run out the last 6 and go 5-1 for some breathing room.Comment
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Tramon getting some love from the national media.
Packers stick to run, overpower Bears
By Dennis Dillon - SportingNews
GREEN BAY, Wis.—Observations from watching the Green Bay Packers manhandle the Chicago Bears, 37-3, in the 175th regular-season renewal of the NFL’s oldest rivalry (surprisingly, the teams have met only once in the playoffs).
This was a “gold package” home game for the Packers, which meant it was one largely attended by Milwaukee season-ticket holders. No wonder the traffic heading north on I-43 Sunday morning was so heavy.
1. Three’s a crowd
Since the NFL switched to four-team divisions in 2002, the Packers and Bears have ruled in the NFC North. Green Bay has won the division four times, and Chicago has finished first twice. Now, there’s a logjam at the top.
With their surprisingly easy victory Sunday, the Packers raised their record to 5-5 and moved into a tie for first place with Chicago and Minnesota, which fumbled a chance to have the top spot all to itself by losing in Tampa.
This isn’t the league’s sexiest division, and only the winner likely will make the playoffs, but the remaining six weeks could provide plenty of intrigue for the contenders (sorry, Detroit, but you’re not in this discussion).
The Packers, who have only one opponent left on their schedule with a winning record (Carolina), face two division rivals, Chicago and Detroit, in the final two weeks. The Bears have no opponents left with winning records, and they have Minnesota and Green Bay among division opponents. The Vikings, who still must play Chicago and Detroit, have three foes with winning records—Arizona, Atlanta and the Giants—in the final three games.
I’m not a betting man, but if I were, my money would be on the Packers repeating as NFC North winners. And who would have predicted that back in early August, when Green Bay traded Brett Favre to the Jets and ushered in the Aaron Rodgers era at quarterback?
2. Counter intuitive
The Bears came into the game with the 30th-ranked pass defense—the linemen had recorded only three sacks in the last four games—and the fourth-rated run defense. So the Packers came out of their locker room throwing, right? Well, no.
Green Bay dared to go directly at the strength of the Chicago defense, which held the Titans to 8 yards rushing a week ago, and had scintillating success. The Bears were allowing an average of 74.9 yards rushing per game, but the Packers surpassed that mark by halftime, as they rushed for 138 yards on 19 carries in the first half.
Running back Ryan Grant finished the game with 145 yards on 25 attempts. It was his season high in rushing, and only his second 100-yard rushing performance of the season. Maybe like last season, Grant will come on strong in the second half and propel the Packers into the postseason.
The Green Bay line, particularly the inside threesome of center Scott Wells and guards Daryn Colledge and Jason Spitz, manhandled the Chicago front seven. It pushed the Bears all over Lambeau Field.
And it wasn’t just the linemen who blocked well. The tight ends and receivers stepped up, too. One highlight moment came when tight end Tory Humphrey lined up in the backfield, picked up outside linebacker Lance Briggs and turned him around on an 8-yard run by Grant.
3. Plenty left in the tank
Reports of the demise of Bears middle linebacker Brian Urlacher might be exaggerated. Although the ‘05 Defensive Player of the Year has been hindered by a back problem much of the season and his tackle totals have shrunk, he still can be a big playmaker.
In the second quarter, Urlacher lined up close to the line, as if he were going to blitz, and then dropped into coverage. Backpedaling and turning around, he reached up and intercepted a pass intended for Donald Driver at the Chicago 10. It was his first interception of the season.
Later in the first half, Urlacher burst through on a blitz and forced Rodgers to scramble to his right and thrown an incomplete pass.
4. Velcro men
Most teams are fortunate to have one cornerback who can play tight man-to-man coverage. The Packers have three defensive backs who can stick to receivers and practically suffocate them.
You know about starting corners Al Harris and Charles Woodson, but second-year defensive back Tramon Williams, who plays in the team’s nickel package, has the same style. Just ask Bears wideout Devin Hester, who couldn’t get inside position on Williams on a quick slant and saw it get broken up.
Williams was the only Packers defender who broke up two passes in Sunday’s game."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Williams looked pretty good again...I remember him running step for step with Hester a few times.C.H.U.D.Comment
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