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    For the first time since Mark Tauscher came to the Green Bay Packers as a seventh-round draft pick in 2000, there's a question of whether the Wisconsin native is in his last season with the team.

    The former Auburndale High School and University of Wisconsin standout has been the Packers' starting right tackle for nine seasons, and during that time, he's essentially had two contracts: his rookie deal and a six-year extension he signed in November 2002 after he'd undergone season-ending knee reconstruction surgery. The Packers sweetened his contract along the way and last year added roster bonuses worth up to an additional $1.3 million in both 2007 and '08, but they haven't added any years to the deal.

    Tauscher is halfway through the final year of his contract, and the Packers have not approached him about an extension, though that remains a possibility. At age 31, Tauscher has put plenty of miles on his body, but after a slow start this season, he's picked up his play. Barring injury or a major drop-off in performance, he should be in line for one last long-term deal this offseason. The question is whether the Packers will be willing to pay, or if they project someone else, perhaps fifth-round draft pick Breno Giacomini, will be ready to start at right tackle next year.

    "I have no idea," Tauscher said of whether he'll be back with the Packers in 2009. "I really don't know."

    Though Tauscher was a better fit for former coach Mike Sherman's power run game than coach Mike McCarthy's zone-blocking scheme, he's been a consistent and proficient pass blocker. This season, he's allowed only one sack, according to Stats, an independent statistical firm, as opposed to his six sacks allowed last year.

    The Packers also have defended Tauscher's run blocking in the zone scheme the past 2½ years — among other things, the zone scheme places a heavy emphasis on effective cut blocking on the back side of plays — and the coaching staff still appears to have great faith in him because of his reliable health and overall ability. In the last 5½ seasons, Tauscher has missed only five of 88 games.

    "Last game he had 10 guys he knocked off their feet, he had four cuts on the back side," said James Campen, the Packers' offensive line coach. "Against that defense, Tennessee, the way they play, that's pretty good. He can do it."

    Joe Philbin, the Packers' offensive coordinator, said: "(He's holding up) pretty well. He practices all the time. Very, very dependable."

    The Packers might be waiting to monitor Tauscher's health and production the second half of the season before deciding whether to re-sign him, and if they feel good about that, could offer him an extension the last week or two of the regular season. But if they decide the risk of injury or risk in a drop in performance is high for the cost, they'll also have to feel good enough about either Giacomini or perhaps Tony Moll as a successor before replacing him.

    Moll, a third-year pro, needed a strong rally during the second half of training camp to make the final roster, and his role in the NFL might be as a backup guard and right tackle rather than as a starter.

    Giacomini probably is the better long-term prospect because of his tremendous size (6-foot-7, 311 pounds). He moved from tight end to right tackle for only his last 1½ seasons of college at Louisville and entered the NFL as a developmental prospect. The Packers say he's made huge strides.

    For the first week or so of camp, the Packers' defensive ends ran over Giacomini on almost every snap of one-on-one pass blocking while he adjusted to the techniques the Packers teach, but he improved enough as camp went on to win a spot on the 53-man roster.

    Though Giacomini has been active for only two regular-season games and has played in only one on special teams, he works in practice every day as the scout team right tackle against two-time Pro Bowl defensive end Aaron Kampman.

    "He's gotten a real good education on the pace you need to play at and the speed you need to play at to be successful in the league," Philbin said. "He appears to be a good effort player. He's got some feet for a big man, we think he bends pretty well for a big guy, moves well, so we're kind of excited about him."

    Still, it's a big question whether he'd be ready to play at a solid starter's level by next year. With Giacomini's height, he'll have to learn to play with low pads on every snap so that smaller but powerful defensive ends don't gain the leverage advantage on him when he's run blocking. If he can do that, he has the power to get good push in the run game, and he also has the kind of mean streak teams covet in offensive linemen.

    "He displays that every day, a very tough, physical kid that has learned to play with a controlled-type rage," Campen said. "That's to his credit. You can be overaggressive and screw yourself up and start making mistakes. He's learned to control that and put it into his functions, his work, his footwork, techniques."

  • #2
    Well we all know that Thompson isn't going to redeal Tauscher based on any other than his play and his upside/downside. I would certainly like to see Tauscher end his career as a Packer, but in this day and age he certainly doesn't deserve anything, franchises don't owe the players anything. Besides there are other teams that will give tauscher a bigger contract and then cut him after a year or two and then he will be out of the league. He will get a nice signing bonus from the Texans, or Cheifs, or some team trying to rally their offensive line and squeeze the last bit of pulp out of an aging veteran.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
      Well we all know that Thompson isn't going to redeal Tauscher based on any other than his play and his upside/downside. I would certainly like to see Tauscher end his career as a Packer, but in this day and age he certainly doesn't deserve anything, franchises don't owe the players anything. Besides there are other teams that will give tauscher a bigger contract and then cut him after a year or two and then he will be out of the league. He will get a nice signing bonus from the Texans, or Cheifs, or some team trying to rally their offensive line and squeeze the last bit of pulp out of an aging veteran.
      Cold, hard business realism is the only way to view the modern NFL (any era, really).

      I imagine Nutz is right, GB will view Taush from a strict cost standpoint and maybe figure they need to move on. I think they could do real good by resigning him. He's an RT and can play effectively for 2 or 3 more years. It wouldn't be too difficult to structure a fair deal that keeps him on the team for the end of his career.

      As many have noted, there are bunch of players contracts coming up in the next two years. They might not be able to work an aging player like Mark into that contract mix.

      There are some tought decisions ahead of the team and Tausher may be one of those guys we have to turn our backs on.

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      • #4
        Assuming we plug Daryn Colledge in at LT in place of Chad Clifton, who'd be the guy we'd plug in at RT for Taucher? I think we'd almost have to retain Tauch for at least a year or two while we groom his replacement...
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gunakor
          Assuming we plug Daryn Colledge in at LT in place of Chad Clifton, who'd be the guy we'd plug in at RT for Taucher? I think we'd almost have to retain Tauch for at least a year or two while we groom his replacement...
          Then Thompson should have extended him last year, no I fear that a one year, and even a two year extension will not be enough to keep Tauscher in Green Bay.

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          • #6
            I have ceased calling for TT to sign vets since the bubba Franks fiasco.

            If Tausch gets a new deal, I'm sure the coaches and front office will know that it's best for the team. Same goes if not!

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            • #7
              I say deal. If it were Clifton whose contract was up this year, I think it would be no deal.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                I say deal. If it were Clifton whose contract was up this year, I think it would be no deal.
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                In light of the shortages on the O that GB seemed to continually be working over, mainly in '07, I think it would be foolish to cut Mark Tauscher when current contract expires. He's a highly-experienced and loyal Packer and could very possibly be the answer to a sudden need on the line next fall.

                Of course I imagine that would mean GB would have to come up with a new contract? Or - - ??
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                • #9
                  Tauscher has had an OK season. I wouldn't be upset if he left. I'm one of the few that likes Tony Moll around here. He's played so/so at guard, but I think his best position is tackle. When he came in for Tausch a year or two ago (don't remember when it was), he did a really good job. We never complained. It went unoticed, but I saw a guy that can play.


                  packers.com just had a very complimentary piece on Darryn Colledge. This sounds crazy after the last two years of ups and downs, but he's probably been our best offensive lineman this year.

                  If I had to rate the lineman right now in order of best to worst based on their play this season only, I'd say:


                  Colledge
                  Spitz
                  Tauscher
                  Clifton
                  Wells


                  Next year I think Sitton will take over for Spitz, Spitz for Wells, Moll for Tauscher and who Colledge will either play LT or LG depending on what happens at LT. I also think Barbre has LT potential. He's dumb, but giving him one on one matchups outside rather than compicated inside assignments might be the way to take advantage of his athletic abitliy while hiding his idiocy.
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                  • #10
                    ya fuck tauscher... lets bring in one of teddy boys draft picks to make this line even worse... TT is a fool with lineman and I dont expect anything less than him letting our best tackle get away..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pacopete4
                      ya fuck tauscher... lets bring in one of teddy boys draft picks to make this line even worse... TT is a fool with lineman and I dont expect anything less than him letting our best tackle get away..
                      Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher are very good OT's, but the fact of the matter is that they are not ZBS OT's. IMO that is why we have been better with Pass Blocking than with Zone Blocking.

                      You either have to change your scheme, or bring in the personnel to effectively run it. When Colledge finally takes over at LT and we bring in the new RT (whoever that may be) the cutback lanes will be so big that even Grant won't miss them.

                      And it's not like TT is just letting our best OT get away. For one, I don't think Tausch is our best OT. Colledge is. Second, we have LOTS of people to re-sign. We are deep enough in talent there to get away with letting Tausch walk. It's called cutting your losses.
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                      • #12
                        I don't remotely see this talk of DC being our best lineman
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                        • #13
                          BTW, my dream scenario would be letting go of Clifton (32) and replacing him with Colledge (26), and letting go of Tauscher (31) and signing Jordan Gross, OT/Car (28). This improves the quality of our OT's, makes them younger and solidifies our line for quite a while.

                          The Panthers run a ZBS, so Jordan Gross is a natural ZBS OT. Also, Gross can play both OT positions. He played LT for Carolina during the '03, '04, '06 and '07 seasons and played RT during the '05 season. So he could fit in at RT if Colledge is truly our LT of the future, which I think he is.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bretsky
                            I don't remotely see this talk of DC being our best lineman
                            Then you haven't been watching closely enough. The coaches have been constantly praising Colledge as of late.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kyle.McCarroll
                              BTW, my dream scenario would be letting go of Clifton (32) and replacing him with Colledge (26), and letting go of Tauscher (31) and signing Jordan Gross, OT/Car (28). This improves the quality of our OT's, makes them younger and solidifies our line for quite a while.

                              The Panthers run a ZBS, so Jordan Gross is a natural ZBS OT. Also, Gross can play both OT positions. He played LT for Carolina during the '03, '04, '06 and '07 seasons and played RT during the '05 season. So he could fit in at RT if Colledge is truly our LT of the future, which I think he is.
                              I'd be down with this; I don't see TT breaking out the coin needed to sign Jordan Gross though.
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