I'm not making stupid assertions about no decent quarterback EVER. Ever is a long time, but if you're not ready to back up your stupid assertions, don't make them. Favre was a great quarterback for us, and I've seen every game he played for the Pack. Some of them were stinkers and if you recall he nearly got himself benched a couple times. So if you're going to make claims like these, either back yourself up or shut up.
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Originally posted by MJZiggyI'm not making stupid assertions about no decent quarterback EVER. Ever is a long time, but if you're not ready to back up your stupid assertions, don't make them. Favre was a great quarterback for us, and I've seen every game he played for the Pack. Some of them were stinkers and if you recall he nearly got himself benched a couple times. So if you're going to make claims like these, either back yourself up or shut up.
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Originally posted by CaliforniaCheezThe coach and his Zone Blocking Disaster!!
The run game was the part of the offense that was working today. ZBS does not apply to pass protection. That was not the issue.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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Re: Who is the weak link on the O-Line?
Yeah, Manning looked great against us.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by MJZiggyNo quarterback is going to function with unabated blitzers pounding him all day.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by Brando19Our O Line sucks...it's obvious. I believe there needs to be some reshuffling. Who do you believe is the weak link on the O-Line? Don't pick the whole line...just choose one.
Rodgers
guys like Roethlisberger, Manning, Favre, Brees, top of the line guys do
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The complaints about the ZBS and the lack of passpro are related, a little, in that you draft smaller, quicker guys for ZBS, and they don't always hold up so well on passpro unless they are strong and have great technique.
You can get big guys who are agile enough to play zbs, but they are hard to find, and if you try to get them in FA, they are very expensive.
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I would say that weak link in the offensive line is Ted Thompson. His failure to adequately sign veteran free agents who would fit the Packers' scheme and his failure so far to draft better quality linemen are the reason why the line isn't better. I don't think it's appropriate to single out one guy, when there are a few. No matter what line of work or sport, the quality of the product starts from the top, and Ted Thompson is responsible for the quality on the field.
As another poster pointed to me in the game thread... Thompson was quoted as saying "Guards are a dime a dozen".
He better find some new one or the current ones will kill their quarterback.
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You say he failed in FA. Then who should he have gotten? Name names. THere hasn't been any one outside of Hutchinson who would have been worth it and he is severly overpaid.Originally posted by MateoInMexI would say that weak link in the offensive line is Ted Thompson. His failure to adequately sign veteran free agents who would fit the Packers' scheme and his failure so far to draft better quality linemen.
As another poster pointed to me in the game thread... Thompson was quoted as saying "Guards are a dime a dozen".
He better he some new one or the current ones will kill their quarterback.
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He was only but a seed ...Originally posted by cpk1994Apparently Paco never saw the first 8 times Favre went into the Metrodome.Originally posted by MJZiggySo you're telling me that every single time Manning or Favre or Big Ben runs into pressure like this, they always have a good offensive performance? They've never once had the o-line completely fall apart and have it result in a loss?
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I hear where you are coming from, but this same OL was moving that same DL just fine in week 1. I saw Daryn Colledge move massive Pat Williams back 3 yards on a Rodgers TD sneak a few months ago. Now, they get manhandled. It's not the players, it's the way they are playing right now.Originally posted by NoodleThe complaints about the ZBS and the lack of passpro are related, a little, in that you draft smaller, quicker guys for ZBS, and they don't always hold up so well on passpro unless they are strong and have great technique.
You can get big guys who are agile enough to play zbs, but they are hard to find, and if you try to get them in FA, they are very expensive.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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Originally posted by cpk1994You say he failed in FA. Then who should he have gotten? Name names. THere hasn't been any one outside of Hutchinson who would have been worth it and he is severly overpaid.Originally posted by MateoInMexI would say that weak link in the offensive line is Ted Thompson. His failure to adequately sign veteran free agents who would fit the Packers' scheme and his failure so far to draft better quality linemen.
As another poster pointed to me in the game thread... Thompson was quoted as saying "Guards are a dime a dozen".
He better he some new one or the current ones will kill their quarterback.
I'm not a name dropper. OK. Larry Allen, Flozell Adams, Jacob Bell....and I just pulled those out from an ESPN Free Agent list. The point is anyone might be better than what Thompson has right now...with the exception of Mark Tauscher.
Also I didn't specifically say FA was the only option, but it might have helped. I would disagree with noone outside of Hutchinson being worth it as well. If you looked at the GB Packers quarterback today, you and I both know there's got to be someone out there who can play NFL football that can protect the quarterback better today.
I have to take my son out to eat, but I definately want to continue the discussion.
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Re: Who is the weak link on the O-Line?
I call BULLSHIT on you.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by MJZiggyNo quarterback is going to function with unabated blitzers pounding him all day.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by Brando19Our O Line sucks...it's obvious. I believe there needs to be some reshuffling. Who do you believe is the weak link on the O-Line? Don't pick the whole line...just choose one.
Rodgers
guys like Roethlisberger, Manning, Favre, Brees, top of the line guys do
Week 8 Pittsburg at The Giants
Roethlisberger sacked 5 times.
13/29 189 yards 1TD 4INTSBut Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Re: Who is the weak link on the O-Line?
I call BULLSHIT on you.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by MJZiggyNo quarterback is going to function with unabated blitzers pounding him all day.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by Brando19Our O Line sucks...it's obvious. I believe there needs to be some reshuffling. Who do you believe is the weak link on the O-Line? Don't pick the whole line...just choose one.
Rodgers
guys like Roethlisberger, Manning, Favre, Brees, top of the line guys do
Week 7 Jets at Oakland
Favre sacked 3 times.
21/38 197 yards 2 INTS
And that was against Oakland!!!But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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