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I watched the game this morning, and focused on Hawk when I could see him. I re-ran several plays when he was clearly visible. I don't care what they say about him publicly, his leg or something has to be bothering him. He looked to be absolutely plodding out there sometimes, and has no quickness changing directions.
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Hawk is JAG (just a guy) on the outside... always thought he should be inside.
That said, this scheme only asks it's LB's to make tackles, not big plays... so moving him won't have much of an impact, even if he were to play better, and be a better fit there.
Hate the scheme, always hated the scheme, will always hate the scheme... unfortunately, they're going to stick with both schemes for the rest of my lifetime, so there's no relief in sight.wist
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Gee Wist, I hope you're not dying anytime soon.Originally posted by wist43Hawk is JAG (just a guy) on the outside... always thought he should be inside.
That said, this scheme only asks it's LB's to make tackles, not big plays... so moving him won't have much of an impact, even if he were to play better, and be a better fit there.
Hate the scheme, always hated the scheme, will always hate the scheme... unfortunately, they're going to stick with both schemes for the rest of my lifetime, so there's no relief in sight.
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I believe it was Nutz hit the nail on the head last week. Something about LenDale running at him and Hawk was slow too react. Hawk is normally very quick and light on his feet. I agree that his leg is pretty messed up. That, paired with the chest, and I'm sure a few other aches and pains are really effecting his game. You're right on the money Patler.Originally posted by PatlerI watched the game this morning, and focused on Hawk when I could see him. I re-ran several plays when he was clearly visible. I don't care what they say about him publicly, his leg or something has to be bothering him. He looked to be absolutely plodding out there sometimes, and has no quickness changing directions.Originally posted by PartialHe's not going to be as effective as he could be. He's a shadow of his healthy self.
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I think he is maxed-out at being a pretty good player. And I don't buy that top ten picks have to be pro bowlers to be successes, that's just a hope. He is struggling now, not sure if it is injuries, but he was better last year.Originally posted by MOBB DEEPpersonally i think hawk is HIGHLY overrated; i never liked that pick.....
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I don't think he'll ever get to the Lance Briggs level, but he is dinged this year with multiple injuries. I think he will be a solid guy for us, but never a league standout or anything like that.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyI think he is maxed-out at being a pretty good player. And I don't buy that top ten picks have to be pro bowlers to be successes, that's just a hope. He is struggling now, not sure if it is injuries, but he was better last year.Originally posted by MOBB DEEPpersonally i think hawk is HIGHLY overrated; i never liked that pick.....
That draft appears to be weak at the top right now.
You've got a lot of guys that are still trying to find their place.
I think Hawk, Vince Young, Davis, Huff will all be stars, but those guys have been mixed so far.
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I like Hawk but he does seem less effective this year.
Maybe playing him in the middle will be a good thing. I like getting Chillar out there a bit more in terms of pass coverage.
We'll see, I suppose."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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You do know that there is a great chance that Orton will play dont you? And that the the Bears Passing attack and offense is not poor this year. Besides, the Bears are tied with the Packers in scoring and TD's but better in rushing, so that would actually make the Bears offense overall better.Originally posted by GunakorCareful what you wish for. Granted the Bears don't have any kind of a passing attack, but Rex has burned us before. I'd be okay with 7 in the box, but I like having both safeties over the top in case either Woodson or Harris get a bad jam at the line and can't recover.Originally posted by Tony OdayBig game then for sure for Hawk. I love it! Lets put 9 in the box: 4 LB 4 DL and 1 SS and DARE Sexy to beat us.
This is not the Bears of yesteryear. If the Bears lose it will be because the defense and those suspect starting CB's didnt show up, not because of the offense.
And even if Rex does start he is 3-0 in GB. and 3-1 total against the Packers. Funny how Packer fans talk so bad about a QB that is always on the winning side of the games when both teams play
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Did you miss the part in my post where I specifically stated that Rex has burned us before?Originally posted by DabaddestbearYou do know that there is a great chance that Orton will play dont you? And that the the Bears Passing attack and offense is not poor this year. Besides, the Bears are tied with the Packers in scoring and TD's but better in rushing, so that would actually make the Bears offense overall better.Originally posted by GunakorCareful what you wish for. Granted the Bears don't have any kind of a passing attack, but Rex has burned us before. I'd be okay with 7 in the box, but I like having both safeties over the top in case either Woodson or Harris get a bad jam at the line and can't recover.Originally posted by Tony OdayBig game then for sure for Hawk. I love it! Lets put 9 in the box: 4 LB 4 DL and 1 SS and DARE Sexy to beat us.
This is not the Bears of yesteryear. If the Bears lose it will be because the defense and those suspect starting CB's didnt show up, not because of the offense.
And even if Rex does start he is 3-0 in GB. and 3-1 total against the Packers. Funny how Packer fans talk so bad about a QB that is always on the winning side of the games when both teams play
I never even brought up Forte and the rushing attack, so I have no clue why you had to mention that in response to my post.
I EMPHASIZED that Rex has had a good record playing the Packers, so you don't really need to rub Rex's success in my face. I AGREE with you. I didn't say anything bad about your QB in this post, rather the opposite. So I have no idea what your snide comment about Packer fans talking about Bear QB's was about anyway, at least in reference to my post that you replied to. Learn to take a damn compliment, because it isn't going to happen that often.
By the way, I'm HOPING that Orton starts this weekend. Rex has burned us in the past, just as Orton has. That was what I was pointing out in my previous post. So those two things being equal, I'd rather face the injured guy.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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