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Czar: "One thing about Minnesota and Tampa Bay is that both of these teams feed off their defenses and running games. Who has the advantage?"
HL: "The first thing I want to say is that Minnesota shocked me with how well they played on defense against the Packers last week. And the next thing is that Adrian Peterson is the first running back to remind me of Bo Jackson. I don't think he's as fast as Bo, but I would run five check-down passes to him a game. Just dump it off to him. He's pretty amazing."
TB: "I still remember the stiff arm he showed us in a preseason game against the Jets his rookie year."
The Packers defensive backs will hit you anywhere, no matter what the refs say. (Otto Greule Jr. / Getty Images)
HL: "Minnesota's offensive line isn't bad, but I would think that Gus Frerotte will struggle against the Bucs. Tampa Bay's defense is so quick and complex. Gus made some mistakes against Green Bay's secondary. And that secondary is the most aggressive unit I have seen in the league this season."
MS: "I agree with Howie. The Packers just simply disregard that five-yard rule and hit you anywhere."
JJ: "That's why they are the highest penalized secondary in the league. But I would take that and live with it. I would much rather have them getting a few penalties than allowing quarterbacks to complete passes all day long in front of them."
Czar: "They probably figure the officials won't keep calling the penalties."
JJ: "You may be right. Down at Miami, we used press coverage all the time and got a bunch of penalties. And they did quit calling penalties after a while."
HL: "The Packers remind me of my old Raider cornerbacks. Not too many corners can play like that and be as aggressive as they are. Plus, Nick Collins is playing a great safety for the Packers. Now, the Vikings will have to be as disruptive this week against Jeff Garcia as they were against Aaron Rodgers."
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Czar: "Speaking of the Packers, does anyone believe they wish they still had Brett Favre?"
MS: "No. If they had Favre right now, Green Bay's record would be worse. He's too erratic."
JJ: "He does make some big plays."
MS: "But he also gives up too many big plays."
Czar: "What do you think the fans think?"
JJ: "The fans think they know, but they don't know."
Czar: "OK. But last year the Packers were 13-3 and now they are 4-5. Why?"
HL: "Their inability to stop the run and also their lack of commitment to their own running game. Yes, Ryan Grant was injured earlier in the year, but he did gain 4.7 yards a carry against Minnesota and they got away from it. I don't know why they didn't stick with it. Last year, part of Brett's success was off of their running game. Now, the onus is on Rodgers and he was under siege. He got mauled by the Vikings."
CM: "People talk about all the superstars hurt in the league this season, but the Packers were relatively healthy all of last season. That hasn't been true this season."
HL: "The loss of Cullen Jenkins has really hurt their defensive line and now they are minus middle linebacker Nick Barnett. Teams are getting to the second level against them."
MS: "Last week, as soon as Barnett got hurt, the Vikings got Chester Taylor isolated on his replacement and he took it to the house. And like everyone was saying earlier about the Cowboys, I don't think Green Bay's protection has been as great this year."
HL: "Part of that is their interior three, plus Chad Clifton did not play well against Jared Allen. Plus, I am still trying to figure out that illegal forward pass penalty called against Rodgers that went for a safety."
JJ: "I think the officials allowed judgment to affect their decision and judgment is not supposed to enter into it. You are not supposed to officiate intent."
HL: "That one play changed that game and maybe the entire division race. The explanation they gave Mike McCarthy was that it was an illegal forward pass because it was an unorthodox throwing motion. It was just bizarre."
JJ: "It was a horrible call."
HL: "It's like the first time we saw the tuck rule called in that Raiders-Patriots playoff game. How do they come up with this stuff?"
Czar: "But can one bad call decide a game?"
HL: "Well, the Packers did have every opportunity to win that game and couldn't do it. It was a mirror image game of the Tennessee loss they had."
HL: "The first thing I want to say is that Minnesota shocked me with how well they played on defense against the Packers last week. And the next thing is that Adrian Peterson is the first running back to remind me of Bo Jackson. I don't think he's as fast as Bo, but I would run five check-down passes to him a game. Just dump it off to him. He's pretty amazing."
TB: "I still remember the stiff arm he showed us in a preseason game against the Jets his rookie year."
The Packers defensive backs will hit you anywhere, no matter what the refs say. (Otto Greule Jr. / Getty Images)
HL: "Minnesota's offensive line isn't bad, but I would think that Gus Frerotte will struggle against the Bucs. Tampa Bay's defense is so quick and complex. Gus made some mistakes against Green Bay's secondary. And that secondary is the most aggressive unit I have seen in the league this season."
MS: "I agree with Howie. The Packers just simply disregard that five-yard rule and hit you anywhere."
JJ: "That's why they are the highest penalized secondary in the league. But I would take that and live with it. I would much rather have them getting a few penalties than allowing quarterbacks to complete passes all day long in front of them."
Czar: "They probably figure the officials won't keep calling the penalties."
JJ: "You may be right. Down at Miami, we used press coverage all the time and got a bunch of penalties. And they did quit calling penalties after a while."
HL: "The Packers remind me of my old Raider cornerbacks. Not too many corners can play like that and be as aggressive as they are. Plus, Nick Collins is playing a great safety for the Packers. Now, the Vikings will have to be as disruptive this week against Jeff Garcia as they were against Aaron Rodgers."
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Czar: "Speaking of the Packers, does anyone believe they wish they still had Brett Favre?"
MS: "No. If they had Favre right now, Green Bay's record would be worse. He's too erratic."
JJ: "He does make some big plays."
MS: "But he also gives up too many big plays."
Czar: "What do you think the fans think?"
JJ: "The fans think they know, but they don't know."
Czar: "OK. But last year the Packers were 13-3 and now they are 4-5. Why?"
HL: "Their inability to stop the run and also their lack of commitment to their own running game. Yes, Ryan Grant was injured earlier in the year, but he did gain 4.7 yards a carry against Minnesota and they got away from it. I don't know why they didn't stick with it. Last year, part of Brett's success was off of their running game. Now, the onus is on Rodgers and he was under siege. He got mauled by the Vikings."
CM: "People talk about all the superstars hurt in the league this season, but the Packers were relatively healthy all of last season. That hasn't been true this season."
HL: "The loss of Cullen Jenkins has really hurt their defensive line and now they are minus middle linebacker Nick Barnett. Teams are getting to the second level against them."
MS: "Last week, as soon as Barnett got hurt, the Vikings got Chester Taylor isolated on his replacement and he took it to the house. And like everyone was saying earlier about the Cowboys, I don't think Green Bay's protection has been as great this year."
HL: "Part of that is their interior three, plus Chad Clifton did not play well against Jared Allen. Plus, I am still trying to figure out that illegal forward pass penalty called against Rodgers that went for a safety."
JJ: "I think the officials allowed judgment to affect their decision and judgment is not supposed to enter into it. You are not supposed to officiate intent."
HL: "That one play changed that game and maybe the entire division race. The explanation they gave Mike McCarthy was that it was an illegal forward pass because it was an unorthodox throwing motion. It was just bizarre."
JJ: "It was a horrible call."
HL: "It's like the first time we saw the tuck rule called in that Raiders-Patriots playoff game. How do they come up with this stuff?"
Czar: "But can one bad call decide a game?"
HL: "Well, the Packers did have every opportunity to win that game and couldn't do it. It was a mirror image game of the Tennessee loss they had."
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