NFC North game thread

[Rastak]

Looks like Vikes and Bears post road wins.

[Rastak]

I am really pissed off about Peterson. What the hell happened to him? I spent all morning trying to figure out how I was going to replace Winslow if he didn't play. I had no idea there was anything wrong with Peterson. God damn it!

Okay, late for a team function is the final word.

[Zool]

Rice has a helluva pair of hands....the anti Williamson.

Any news on Williamson donning the boxing gloves for a round with Chilly yet? With those hands of stone, his ex-coach better be worried!

Chilly woulda kicked his ass.

I doubt it. Williamson drops everything. He would drop Major Coach.

[Rastak]

Rice has a helluva pair of hands....the anti Williamson.

Any news on Williamson donning the boxing gloves for a round with Chilly yet? With those hands of stone, his ex-coach better be worried!

Chilly woulda kicked his ass.

I doubt it. Williamson drops everything. He would drop Major Coach.

I figured he'd have dropped the bout.

[RashanGary]

Now the Packers have to win to keep pace. The NFCN, with the exception of Detroit, is not that bad. I do think Minny will get the suspensions. If the NFL has a list that you can use, and tells players that going off the list can burn them and to do it at their own risk, and they go off. . . . . Well, there is no excuse IMO. I think this is lawyers trying to make a case, but at the end I think the NFL will hold firm. From here on out, players might acctually stay within the list. If you go off the list and you get something illegal, suspension. That's it. NO excuse. Stay within the list. It's as simple as that.

[Partial]

I bet they're out next year. It will take too long with appeal, etc.

[Rastak]

If I understand things correctly:


1) The drug in question could not legally be in the product. That's the main reason the product got pulled after this blew up.

2) The NFL KNEW the banned drug was in the product but intentionally (per their testimony) didn't add it to the banned list.

[RashanGary]

1. The NFL has a list of supplements that are A-OK to take.

2. If a player strays from that list, they ARE responsible for their actions.

3. This group of players strayed from the list


Cut and dry IMO. I think they'll be suspended. They might have a case with the drug company, but as far as the NFL is concerned, they have a list that is safe and if you stray from that, you're done. No questions asked.

[Rastak]

1. The NFL has a list of supplements that are A-OK to take.

2. If a player strays from that list, they ARE responsible for their actions.

3. This group of players strayed from the list


Cut and dry IMO. I think they'll be suspended. They might have a case with the drug company, but as far as the NFL is concerned, they have a list that is safe and if you stray from that, you're done. No questions asked.

Not nearly so cut and dried. Players call a number and the NFL tells you if the supplement in question contains banned substances. Word is one pleyer did that 2 years ago and was told it was clean. That make sense since the product couldn't legally contain the drug in question. Word is the NFL eventually realized it did and did not add it to the banned list interntionally.

As alluded to on pft.com, I'd sue the living piss out of my employer if they tried to pull that shit on me.

I wouldn't be so certain if I were you.

[RashanGary]

My money is on suspensions. The lawyers are trying to make the case out of it because a lot is on the line, but at the end of the day, the players strayed from the safe list and the NFL puts all onus on a player if they stray from the list. Done deal. Suspended. Cut and dry. A part of why they didn't put that, probably among other drugs on the banned list is becuase they will not be responsible to seek out all drugs and put them on the list. They have a safe list, that is as far as they were willing to be liable and quite fankly, having a safe list is more than fair. I'm sure they'll stand strong on these guys because A. its the rule and B. maybe players will take notice and stop straying from the list. IF a player wanted to stray in the past and going forward, it is at their own risk. Done deal.

[Rastak]

My money is on suspensions. The lawyers are trying to make the case out of it because a lot is on the line, but at the end of the day, the players strayed from the safe list and the NFL puts all onus on a player if they stray from the list. Done deal. Suspended. Cut and dry. A part of why they didn't put that, probably among other drugs on the banned list is becuase they will not be responsible to seek out all drugs and put them on the list. They have a safe list, that is as far as they were willing to be liable. IF a player wants to stray, it is at their own risk. Done deal.

We should find out this week.

[RashanGary]

We should find out tomorrow or tuesday. The NFL supposedly doesn't like to suspend players mid practice week because it does not give the teams time to find replacements. That's why they didn't break it before Sunday. I think they'll break it tomorrow, maybe Tuesday.

[Rastak]

We should find out tomorrow or tuesday. The NFL supposedly doesn't like to suspend players mid practice week because it does not give the teams time to find replacements. I think they'll break it tomorrow, maybe Tuesday.

Tuesday at the earliest since several Saints are involved and they play tomorrow.

[Fritz]

Kind of sounds to me like Goodell is getting his panties in a bunch here.

The players actually seem to have a good case, based on what I've read.

[boiga]

Looks like Vikes and Bears post road wins.

Assuming we win tonight, I won't complain about this. I was getting a little sick and tired of all the pundits lambasting the NFC North while lauding the crap holes that are both west coast divisions.

Hopefully, by the end of the day, 3/4ths of the NFCN will have winning records by the end of the day.