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  • My problem with Pass Interference

    Just finished watching the Jets/Titans game. The Jets played a fantastic game.

    Here is my issue: on the 4th down play at the end of the game L Coles of the Jets runs a go. He is being blanketed in coverage. Coles puts his hand on the CB's shoulder to push for seperation. The CB grabs the WR hand. The offical calls defensive pass interference.

    I have a real issue with this and this isn't the only game where that call has been made. If the offensive player initiates the contact to create seperation it has to be a penalty on the WR.

    Just wondering what other people think!
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    My biggest problem is that there are far too many judgment penalties and PI is one of them. There have been far to many ticky tac penalties this year that have had a large impact on games. If these could be challenged, it may have made a difference. The problem is that they are judgment calls so they can't be challenged. I know you can't challenge penalties at all but if they clearly defined all penalties, then they could be reviewed. Problem is they are too vague, so you never know what's going to get called. There is no consistency.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Fred's Slacks
      My biggest problem is that there are far too many judgment penalties and PI is one of them. There have been far to many ticky tac penalties this year that have had a large impact on games. If these could be challenged, it may have made a difference. The problem is that they are judgment calls so they can't be challenged. I know you can't challenge penalties at all but if they clearly defined all penalties, then they could be reviewed. Problem is they are too vague, so you never know what's going to get called. There is no consistency.

      Holding is even worse. Watch any play in any game and there is a 30% chance (my guess) somebody is holding somebody on the line.

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      • #4
        Oops... I expected this thread to have been authored by Ahmad Carroll. My mistake.

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        • #5
          Re: My problem with Pass Interference

          Originally posted by ThunderDan
          Just wondering what other people think!
          I wonder how many SB trophies the Packers would have had the officials ever called Offensive PI on Michael Irvin.

          I'm guessing at least two more.
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          • #6
            I actually think that aspect of the game would be much more interesting if the referees were more willing to call offensive pass interference.

            Of course, I was a football DB, a hockey defenseman and a soccer fullback, so my opinion might be a little coloured...
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            • #7
              I'd really like to see the NFL make "offensive pass interference" a point of emphasis some year. They probably won't, since they tend to labor under the mistaken impression that "really high scores makes football more popular", and actually enforcing the OPI rules as written might result in a reduction in scoring, but do modern pass offenses need to be as ridiculous as they are in some cases?

              Moss got away with really bad OPI on one of his TD catches today, it got my blood boiling.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rastak
                Originally posted by Fred's Slacks
                My biggest problem is that there are far too many judgment penalties and PI is one of them. There have been far to many ticky tac penalties this year that have had a large impact on games. If these could be challenged, it may have made a difference. The problem is that they are judgment calls so they can't be challenged. I know you can't challenge penalties at all but if they clearly defined all penalties, then they could be reviewed. Problem is they are too vague, so you never know what's going to get called. There is no consistency.

                Holding is even worse. Watch any play in any game and there is a 30% chance (my guess) somebody is holding somebody on the line.
                I agree that there's too much offensive pass interference that never gets called, but I agree even more with Ras. I can't tell you how many times I've watched a defensive lineman, getting past the offensive guard or tackle blocking him, then being dragged down or shoved and pushed in the back - and no call. It's aggravating.
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                • #9
                  Just like always, a lot of eloquent stating of what the problems is, but nothing about what you're gonna do about it.

                  I agree that there it is a helluva lot more likely to DPI to get called than OPI. As far as I know, though, the way the rule is written, the same stuff gets penalized either way. If there is an unofficial policy of calling it more on the DBs,

                  The only thing I can say resembling a solution is that you recognize that they are calling it that way, and coach your receivers to take advantage of it.
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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                      Just like always, a lot of eloquent stating of what the problems is, but nothing about what you're gonna do about it.

                      I agree that there it is a helluva lot more likely to DPI to get called than OPI. As far as I know, though, the way the rule is written, the same stuff gets penalized either way. If there is an unofficial policy of calling it more on the DBs,

                      The only thing I can say resembling a solution is that you recognize that they are calling it that way, and coach your receivers to take advantage of it.
                      I thought this discussion was about how the NFL should call OPI more? Isn't that a solution? Of course the coaches should make adjustments, but that wasn't really the point.

                      While the Vikings coaching their WRs to repeatedly run straight into the DBs to get an illegal contact could be called a smart move, that doesn't mean it should have been allowed. Illegal contact should also be called both ways.

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                      • #12
                        The def is always going to get the call, unless the off. player is just obvious. I don't know if that will ever change. To fix it maybe they should loosen the grip they have on DB's playing aggressive football or make it a 15 yard penalty like in college. The spot foul really makes it a huge penalty! Then again anytime someone gets smoked the rec will get tackled b4 the ball is thrown and that will be boring to watch. F It I have no solutions!

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                        • #13
                          How about similar solution as what they did when they made the face-mask call into 5 and 15 yard varieties?

                          If it is a blatant/intentional contact that there is no doubt about the effect on whether the ball was caught, use the current spot foul. If it is a slight nudge or hand slap, make it a 5 yarder and re-do the down.

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                          • #14
                            My problem with pass interference is when the cal it on Harris or Woodson or any Packers DB.

                            Any other time it's great!!!!!

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                            • #15
                              Re: My problem with Pass Interference

                              Originally posted by Iron Mike
                              Originally posted by ThunderDan
                              Just wondering what other people think!
                              I wonder how many SB trophies the Packers would have had the officials ever called Offensive PI on Michael Irvin.

                              I'm guessing at least two more.
                              Or hands to the face by Erik Williams.

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