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  • #16
    Originally posted by sharpe1027
    How about similar solution as what they did when they made the face-mask call into 5 and 15 yard varieties?

    If it is a blatant/intentional contact that there is no doubt about the effect on whether the ball was caught, use the current spot foul. If it is a slight nudge or hand slap, make it a 5 yarder and re-do the down.
    They already sorta did that with DPI with the 5 yard illegal contact penalty.

    The letter of the rules already make it equal treatment between the offensive and defensive player. If there is an unofficial policy that says different, I think the motivation is to open up games and get more scoring. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just that it seems to be that way.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker

      They already sorta did that with DPI with the 5 yard illegal contact penalty.

      The letter of the rules already make it equal treatment between the offensive and defensive player. If there is an unofficial policy that says different, I think the motivation is to open up games and get more scoring. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just that it seems to be that way.
      Wasn't the illegal contact just an additional rule that covers when the ball isn't in the air? I'm talking about reducing PI calls, where the pass is catchable but the contact is minimal.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by LEWCWA
        The def is always going to get the call, unless the off. player is just obvious. I don't know if that will ever change. To fix it maybe they should loosen the grip they have on DB's playing aggressive football or make it a 15 yard penalty like in college. The spot foul really makes it a huge penalty! Then again anytime someone gets smoked the rec will get tackled b4 the ball is thrown and that will be boring to watch. F It I have no solutions!
        All they have to do is make everything reviewable subject to one challenge per team in each half. Since there wasn't a personal foul involved during the NYJ vs. TN play in question it should be ruled offsetting penalties and replay the down. The ref on the field might be closer to the action but multiple cameras and slow motion will be the more accurate indicator of what happened. Then, like in any other challenge, if there is not enough evidence to overrule the call on the field the first call stands.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by sharpe1027
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker

          They already sorta did that with DPI with the 5 yard illegal contact penalty.

          The letter of the rules already make it equal treatment between the offensive and defensive player. If there is an unofficial policy that says different, I think the motivation is to open up games and get more scoring. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just that it seems to be that way.
          Wasn't the illegal contact just an additional rule that covers when the ball isn't in the air? I'm talking about reducing PI calls, where the pass is catchable but the contact is minimal.
          I guess it's written that way, but I think they tend to use it as a compromise thing for non-blatant OPI too. I'd like to see that penalty NOT be an automatic first down.
          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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          • #20
            Re: My problem with Pass Interference

            Originally posted by Iron Mike
            Originally posted by ThunderDan
            Just wondering what other people think!
            I wonder how many SB trophies the Packers would have had the officials ever called Offensive PI on Michael Irvin.

            I'm guessing at least two more.
            QFT

            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #21
              I simply don't like PI because it can REALLY affect a game when miscalled. It also seems to be the most often miscalled penalty in my book. In the NBA we got special rules for veterans who "earned" it, its bullshit and its why I stopped watching the NBA.

              Personally I think PI should be limited to a few cases. Grabbing an arm to prevent the catch. Flat out hitting the guy before the ball is there. The little bumping and hand checking in the course of a route and jockeying for the ball should all be allowed as it can't possibly be officiated fairly. I don't care if a guy is looking for the ball or not, it shouldn't matter if he managed to swivel his head while jockeying or not. As it stands recievers use a "stiff" elbow to create seperation and it is allowed, but if the DB pushes that arm away its called PI. Recievers have to flat out PUSH the DB to get called (like hester), but they are allowed to extend an arm and use it to keep the DB from closing the gap. If you allow that you have to allow a DB to do similar things.

              Last year, cowboys at lions. Lions pass the ball into the endzone and the cowboy DB looks back, puts his hand on the WR shoulder so when the WR tries to jump for the ball he gets less air than Larry Bird....no call. Those kinds of things are game changers.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • #22
                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                I guess it's written that way, but I think they tend to use it as a compromise thing for non-blatant OPI too. I'd like to see that penalty NOT be an automatic first down.
                But they can't, and don't, call illegal contact once the pass is in the air. I'm suggesting a PI (and possibly also an illegal contact where the WR is only nudged, not knocked down or held) that is only a 5 yarder, without an automatic first down.

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