How is MM doing? Your thoughts

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How do you guys feel MM is doing in his 3rd year on the job? I've got to say I'm awfully dissapointed to the point where I don't he's the long term answer.

Their have been some questionable decisions all season long, and I feel like our offensive schemes don't match the identity of our team.

What do you think?

[BallHawk]

He'd have to give us two straight seasons of losing records for me to even consider getting rid of him.

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He'd have to give us two straight seasons of losing records for me to even consider getting rid of him.

I'm not saying consider getting rid of him yet. He took a team to an NFC championship last year. That automatically earns two seasons beyond that NFC championship game to show your worth.

Their have been some concerning signs this year though. From the conservative and often times mind boggling third down calls, the 2nd worst 3rd and long % in the NFL, the penalties, the looks on the sideline of confusion, etc.

I'm worried.

[GrnBay007]

I've haven't paid too much attention to him on the sidelines before last night....but last night I thought he looked kind of out of sorts. But then again, how is a coach supposed to look during a game like that? But what crossed my mind is he looked more calm/cool last year. I guess when you think of his position from a personal context, even though he hasn't been around a long time in GB, he's walking on some new waters this year.....his veteran QB is gone (building trust in the new one), he's now married and has a baby. Lots of big changes in his personal life from last year.

[channtheman]

I don't know what to think of him. I think his playcalling is just terrible at times and I know we are a young team, but we are still the most penalized team in the league which leads me to believe that he can't discipline the young guys. Like you guys, he deserves a little more time, but I've made topics before questioning his playcalling and willingness to go for it on key situations in games.

That being said I thought it was hilarious how in the game after the Packers stopped the Saints on the 2 pt attempt they showed McCarthy for about 10 seconds (or whatever), and I commented to my brother and my dad "I was waiting for McCarthy to do the fist pump" and then he immediately did it afterwords. Twas hilarious! We're getting the beat down and he pumps his fist because we "stopped" them (really the Saint just slipped).

[sheepshead]

He's making adjustments. The penalties we saw early I put on coaching. Looks like the team has cleaned those up so I give MM credit for that. I haven't yelled at the screen too much on play calling lately either.

[packrulz]

I think he's doing as well as expected after trading Favre and going with a first year starter in Rogers. I think it's funny how fans in Philly, Dallass, Cinnci, Seattle, Cleveland, & etc. are all clamoring to fire their coaches, they can't all be bad coaches.

[Patler]

I think he's doing as well as expected after trading Favre and going with a first year starter in Rogers. I think it's funny how fans in Philly, Dallass, Cinnci, Seattle, Cleveland, & etc. are all clamoring to fire their coaches, they can't all be bad coaches.

A few years ago Reid was thought very highly of, especially after being firm in dealing with Owens. Respected by players and other teams for keeping the Eagles a playoff contender year after year. But he seems to be losing his grip.

[Fritz]

This New Orleans game was a real kick in the schnuts for me as a fan. I had high hopes for a 10 - 6 season. What's disturbing to me is the way the defense, particularly, has gone backward. At least the defensive line has.

I'm disappointed in MM. I think maybe he needs to stick his nose into the defensive game plans a little more than it seems he does. I'd also like him to admit that his team sucked on Monday instead of being so Casper Milquetoast about it.

[pbmax]

The offense in general and the secondary in particular have overcome injuries this year and have maintained a reasonable play level. The same cannot be said of the DLine and the LBs (recently). Is that coaching or personnel?

This injury riddled year has exposed some holes in the youth movements depth. But I am not convinced that it has exposed the D Line coaches (who unit played much better last year - early at least) or LB coach (who has had only two weeks to prepare Hawk to be MLB).

[Patler]

This is a very different year for MM.

In 2006, nothing was expected from the Packers, after going 4-12 in 2005. Many thought the Packers would be one of the worst teams in the NFL. He really didn't have to do much to have a "good" season. Little to no pressure to win week to week.

Going in to 2007 the team was looked on more favorably than the year before, but still were not really considered a playoff favorite, or even a favorite to win the NFC North. Again, not a lot of pressure on him week to week, and a fast start to the season ensured a successful and enjoyable one overall. Through much of the season there was not a lot of pressure to win, because they weren't favored to win many of the games, especially early.

2008 is a whole new situation. After a trip to the NFC Championship game, a lot was expected from the team. The Favre fiasco made for a very difficult preseason with too many distractions for his good and the teams as a whole. Early season losses just ramped up the pressure to win.

For the most part, I think he has handled it well. He was very composed during the Favre situation and demonstrated authority in dealing with it and with the media. Of course, the offshoot of that is that it put even more pressure on the season. Through out the ups and downs of this season he remains composed and focused, seems to have a plan and contingencies, and seems to follow through on them.

I think this off season will be a big one in determining his future. There have to be some changes in scheme, philosophy or coaching staff:

-The running game has been slow to get started every season. Could be coaching of the O-line, or it could be training camp and early season preparation. The scheme does seem that it can be successful as it performed very well the second half of '07 and seems to have found itself again in '08. But, the abysmal starts of the last two seaons for the running game can't continue. Coaching changes or practice changes seem to be needed.

- Special teams play is not good enough. The Packers seem to have the players for it, but they just aren't performing well enough. This seems like an area for a coaching change.

- Defense. There are limitations because of the players abilities' but I'm not sure that without a change in the staff they will ever be more than a mediocre defense able to do somethings well, but not one to really control games..

MM will have his work cut out for him in addressing these problem areas in the off season. Some young head coaches have difficulties changing what and who they believed in. Firing can be difficult. MM seems flexible and willing to try new things about training, practices, etc. We have no idea how he will handle personnel matters, but the firm hand he took with Favre leads me to believe he will make the difficult personnel decisions and move on.

[Fritz]

If Vanilla Bob goes MM can create a mutiny by promoting Kurt Schottenheimer to defensive coordinator!

And how about hiring one of those special teams coaches who is all demonstrative and can get his guys pumped up to go smash people on every kickoff and punt?

[sharpe1027]

All of the mistakes, especially early in the year, were a bad sign.

It seems that when he makes a point to address a problem it generally gets fixed, or at least improves. That is a good sign.

Overall, I'm still a MM fan. I think we need to see if they can turn this thing around and get win the Division before we jump to conclusions.

[Patler]

If Vanilla Bob goes MM can create a mutiny by promoting Kurt Schottenheimer to defensive coordinator!

And how about hiring one of those special teams coaches who is all demonstrative and can get his guys pumped up to go smash people on every kickoff and punt?

If a current staff member were to become the Packers new DC, I think it would be Winston Moss. I would prefer to see an experienced DC with a proven track record, but I don't even know if any are available. I would be very curious to see what Moss might do with it. He has been very open and upfront about admitting that he has aspirations to be a coordinator and a head coach. Reportedly he is a phenomenally hard worker and very detail oriented. Might provide a fresh, new approach.

[Patler]

All of the mistakes, especially early in the year, were a bad sign.

It seems that when he makes a point to address a problem it generally gets fixed, or at least improves. That is a good sign.

Overall, I'm still a MM fan. I think we need to see if they can turn this thing around and get win the Division before we jump to conclusions.

If they win the Division by going 5-0 to finish at 10-6, which they certainly are capable of doing, he can have the job in GB as long as he wants it as far as I am concerned !