TT will get haynesworth

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oh christ patler
who here doesn't want to stomp on the face of a cowboy player, coach, or their owner?

hell, i'd throw on the old track shoes with the 5/8 inch snow spikes in them

[Tarlam!]

Well, TT surprised me, personally, when he went up to draft that Thompson fellow this Spring.

I doubt TT goes after either of Pep or AH, 'cause they will cost a fortune.
And, I don't think this is about TT being cheap. I think this has a lot to do with locker room harmony. If one guy gets too much of the pie, the wheels will fall off.

Depending on who's in the first round, TT might go up and get a stud rookie. They cost fortunes, too, but it has become accepted to a large extent by vets.

TT is no idiot. He sees more than us fans when he's watching a ball game. He is a great talent evaluater, IMHO. Or his staff are.

From a fan perspective, I say YES to an interior consisting of Pep and AH, sprinkled in with a bit of Pickett and Jolly. I don't see it, though.

[cheesner]

oh christ patler
who here doesn't want to stomp on the face of a cowboy player, coach, or their owner?

hell, i'd throw on the old track shoes with the 5/8 inch snow spikes in them

:P

I doubt this will happen.

I have a strong suspicion that this is only a 'contract year' performance. A player who under-performs for several years, exhibits behavioral issues, and then suddenly comes on strong? I think it is risky, but it is tough to say having never met the man. If TT thinks it is a genuine level that AH has reached, yes I see TT making a strong play for him. In my opinion, I think a dominating DT will go a long ways to making the Packers a much better team.

Regardless of what JH does, TT appears to like to have a lot of DT bodies that can be kept fresh by rotating in.

Although TT has made few pushes for early signing of top tier FAs - (Arrington ?) Don't discount that the Packers are currently a different team than at any time under TT. Perhaps we are in a position where TT feels the situation is right for a big signing.

That being said, I hope he doesn't do it. Too risky with this player, and I doubt we even get a chance as Tenn will resign him.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I have a strong suspicion that this is only a 'contract year' performance. A player who under-performs for several years, exhibits behavioral issues, and then suddenly comes on strong?

Actually, he's been dominant for the last 2-3 years. I think it was more that he came into his own.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nlEA8BUTQ

NO!

[3irty1]

I know this is Haynesworth thread but here's a short little article about Peppers not resigning with the Panthers yet.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/panthers/story/371432.html

They have a few players due for new contracts this year and have already resigned Chris Gamble to a fat six year contract that is supposed to make him one of the top 5 highest paid corners in the league. I think its looking more and more likely that they are forced to franchise and possibly trade Peppers.

[SnakeLH2006]

I don't see why we wouldn't be in the sweepstakes. He's a uniquely domiate player. I've seen him toss Olineman aside like they were running backs.

TT isn't going to go out and pay an average FA a stars salary, but Haynesworth is a legit star, a unique talent. I think TT will be in the conversation.

Oh Christ son, put away your TT crackpipe. Yea, TT and EVERY other NFL fan knows he's a beast. TT goes for undrafted dudes for cheap or a gamechanger on the rarity (Woodson being the only one) on the cheap. Heynesworth will set the bank at 13 million a year easily on the market. There is no fucking way TT will/or even has a chance to sign him. Wow. Just wow that you could feasibly think that is possible. Go get TT some more tea, and lay off the hella Jolt sodas son. It's possible (albeit small chance at this point) that TT won't even be around next year the way this is going.

[Gunakor]

I don't see why we wouldn't be in the sweepstakes. He's a uniquely domiate player. I've seen him toss Olineman aside like they were running backs.

TT isn't going to go out and pay an average FA a stars salary, but Haynesworth is a legit star, a unique talent. I think TT will be in the conversation.

Oh Christ son, put away your TT crackpipe. Yea, TT and EVERY other NFL fan knows he's a beast. TT goes for undrafted dudes for cheap or a gamechanger on the rarity (Woodson being the only one) on the cheap. Heynesworth will set the bank at 13 million a year easily on the market. There is no fucking way TT will/or even has a chance to sign him. Wow. Just wow that you could feasibly think that is possible. Go get TT some more tea, and lay off the hella Jolt sodas son. It's possible (albeit small chance at this point) that TT won't even be around next year the way this is going.

What makes you think TT won't spend money if it's warranted? The top priced FA's in the market most years aren't worth it. Certainly you could agree with me there. When a real star is out there, especially at a position of need, I fully expect TT would make a legitimate offer. Just because TT would rather promote from within doesn't mean he won't look elsewhere if it's the right fit. Haynesworth in Green Bay would be a great fit, and I'd be extremely disappointed if TT weren't at least in the conversation.

But if some other team enters the discussion and offers 14+ million/year when Haynesworth is only worth 10 or 11 million/year, we won't see him here. And that's fine, because IMO unless you are a top 5 player in the NFL, all positions included, you aren't worth that much. Let another team pay it. I don't want to see any one player on our roster eating up that much salary, regardless of where he plays or how good he is.

It's tough to build a 53 man roster, not to mention resigning young studs like Greg Jennings or Tramon Williams, when one player is eating up well over 10% of your total team payroll. Don't forget we still might need to throw some money at our OL too. There's only so much to go around, and TT might find that money more useful spread amongst a number of very solid football players vs. one stud football player. And I for one could not find much fault in that choice.

[Lurker64]

I have to say, I would be very surprised if Thompson seriously pursued Haynesworth, but on the other hand that's precisely why it might happen.

Since two things are clear to me:
1) Ted Thompson is difficult to predict.
2) Ted Thompson believes firmly in the value of good defensive tackles.

I personally wouldn't object to giving Haynesworth 14m/year provided the "character risk" issues are resolved, since the two most critical positions (and the hardest positions to fill well) are "Quarterback" and "Defensive Tackle". Somebody else will probably come along and make him "the highest paid player in the history of the league" and I'd be hesitant to pay him that.

[cheesner]

I have to say, I would be very surprised if Thompson seriously pursued Haynesworth, but on the other hand that's precisely why it might happen.

Since two things are clear to me:
1) Ted Thompson is difficult to predict.
2) Ted Thompson believes firmly in the value of good defensive tackles.

I personally wouldn't object to giving Haynesworth 14m/year provided the "character risk" issues are resolved, since the two most critical positions (and the hardest positions to fill well) are "Quarterback" and "Defensive Tackle". Somebody else will probably come along and make him "the highest paid player in the history of the league" and I'd be hesitant to pay him that.

Dang. Thats a lot of money. I hope most of that would be in performance incentives and good behavior rewards. Not sure what that would do for the other defensive player's attitudes.

[KYPack]

AH could well be a 90 million dollar package.

14 - 15 million a year @ 5yrs

15 - 18 million for the SB.

I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[RashanGary]

AH could well be a 90 million dollar package.

14 - 15 million a year @ 5yrs

15 - 18 million for the SB.

I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I think you might be right. It could get VERY VERY high. I don't remember a player of his caliber EVER getting to UFA (since Reggie of course and Reggie was better but older).

It's going to be very unpredictable.

[Packers4Ever]

The only way that Thompson would pick up any free agent, is if he doesn't have to get into a bidding war with any other team. Its not going to happen.

Based on play TT may be forced to make a serious attempt at AH. Premature to say "Its not going to happen."

Based on TT's prior moves, I doubt very much he can be forced into

moving any deals too fast, serious attempts included.

Unfortunately, this is where a really good deal could be missed.

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I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

[3irty1]

I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

Ditto.