TT will get haynesworth

[Lurker64]

I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

Peppers is getting Franchised though, so that's irrelevant.

[Packerarcher]

It would actually be smarter than the Reggie deal. The Minister of Defense was around 32 or 33 when he signed with the Pack AH would be 28. That's 4 years of prime, top-of-his-game play that the Pack would get that we never got to see from Reggie.

Sign AH, draft 3 DEs and 3 OLs, then watch the Lombardi tropheys come rolling in. You heard it here first.

That's exactly why TT would never do a deal with AH it would be SMART,and that the man is not. An egotistical idioit he is,but hey at least there will be plenty of years of over payed no names on the D that TT hand picked.

[steve823]

I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

Haynesworth>Peppers :P

[Lurker64]

at least there will be plenty of years of over payed no names on the D that TT hand picked.

You can say many things about Thompson, far from all of them positive, but one thing you cannot say about the man is that he's prone to overpaying. With the notable exception of Ryan Grant, he's somewhat notoriously tight with his resources, notable for letting a lot of FAs go elsewhere because he sets a price and does not exceed it. That's a knock on Thompson, probably, but where on earth do you get the "overpaid no names" argument? How many overpaid no names do we have on defense?

I mean, look at the 2008 salaries on our defense. All of our Safeties are making $500k or less; Harris and Woodson aren't no-names and they're only making about 4.5m, Patrick Lee being potentially overpaid at 1.5m but he's a rookie, with Bush, Blackmon, and Williams making very little; Hawk, Barnett, Chillar, and Poppinga all making 3-4m; Pickett, Harrell, and Cole making 2.6m, 2m, and 1.4m respectively; and Kampman, Jenkins, Montgomery, Hunter, and Thompson making 3.1m, 2.4m, 525k, 450k, and 796k respectively.

With the possible issues of the dead weight KGB's contract (brought to you by Mike Sherman) left lying around and the contracts of Harrell and Lee (who were relatively high draft picks), it's hard to claim a single player on the defense is really overpaid. Most of our starters on defense are in the $500-3m range and for an NFL starter it's hard to say that's "overpaying", particularly since the salary cap is $116,729,000 this year and the roster only has 53 guys on it which amounts to $2,202,433.96 per player if divided equally (which is unrealistic since most of those guys are backups or STers).

If anything, Thompson is guilty of being to stingy which makes it hard to sign free agents which would improve our defense. IMO, Haynesworth may well be worth breaking the bank for.

[Bretsky]

at least there will be plenty of years of over payed no names on the D that TT hand picked.

You can say many things about Thompson, far from all of them positive, but one thing you cannot say about the man is that he's prone to overpaying. With the notable exception of Ryan Grant, he's somewhat notoriously tight with his resources, notable for letting a lot of FAs go elsewhere because he sets a price and does not exceed it. That's a knock on Thompson, probably, but where on earth do you get the "overpaid no names" argument? How many overpaid no names do we have on defense?

I mean, look at the 2008 salaries on our defense. All of our Safeties are making $500k or less; Harris and Woodson aren't no-names and they're only making about 4.5m, Patrick Lee being potentially overpaid at 1.5m but he's a rookie, with Bush, Blackmon, and Williams making very little; Hawk, Barnett, Chillar, and Poppinga all making 3-4m; Pickett, Harrell, and Cole making 2.6m, 2m, and 1.4m respectively; and Kampman, Jenkins, Montgomery, Hunter, and Thompson making 3.1m, 2.4m, 525k, 450k, and 796k respectively.

With the possible issues of the dead weight KGB's contract (brought to you by Mike Sherman) left lying around and the contracts of Harrell and Lee (who were relatively high draft picks), it's hard to claim a single player on the defense is really overpaid. Most of our starters on defense are in the $500-3m range and for an NFL starter it's hard to say that's "overpaying", particularly since the salary cap is $116,729,000 this year and the roster only has 53 guys on it which amounts to $2,202,433.96 per player if divided equally (which is unrealistic since most of those guys are backups or STers).

If anything, Thompson is guilty of being to stingy which makes it hard to sign free agents which would improve our defense. IMO, Haynesworth may well be worth breaking the bank for.

Great Post

I'd consider him borderline stingy, which is fine.....just not too likeable since I'm a guy who enjoys tracking free agency.

Of course some will point to Woodsen; but they should also consider the circumstances. TT loved Arrington and lost out on him. We were sitting on over 35,000 of space and a team that was crap so TT frontloaded a deal to bring us talent and use up a good loot of space.

I find that type of deal for TT to be the exception given the circumstances rather than the norm.

[RashanGary]

I think he'll strongly consider it. Maybe he'll end up locking Kamp and Jennings up for the same price as AH and move on without him, but I see no reason that he won't be in the conversation. If it gets out of hand, he probably won't be the highest bidder, but none of these things are exactly predictable. For whatever reason, if the price doesn't go through the roof, he'll be there to scoop in. He seems to be involved in the conversation with every star that is available lately.

[Fritz]

Makes you wonder if Ted's feeling the public heat. I mean, look at the Gonzalez talks.

Would Gonzalez have helped this team all that much in exchange for a third rounder? Not unless he can break out a few spin moves and play on the defensive line, or simultaneously play and coach special teams.

Even next year he wouldn't be of that much help, I don't think. He'd just be an aging player who's aged another year.

[Fred's Slacks]

Makes you wonder if Ted's feeling the public heat. I mean, look at the Gonzalez talks.

Would Gonzalez have helped this team all that much in exchange for a third rounder? Not unless he can break out a few spin moves and play on the defensive line, or simultaneously play and coach special teams.

Even next year he wouldn't be of that much help, I don't think. He'd just be an aging player who's aged another year.

I think TT is just a "no stone unturned" kind of guy. If there is talent to be acquired, he's going to inquire about it. Just because he doesn't land a lot of big names, people think he just sits around the office and admires his draft picks. People like to forget about the misses. Moss and Gonzales are the most recent. If I remember correctly we had the highest offer to both Lavar Arrington and Adam Vinitiari but Arrington wanted to stay in his division and Vinitiari wanted to play indoors. There were numerous others that they had in for visits but didn't get deals done for one reason or another. People can complain that he hasn't been aggressive enough in contract negotiations but despite what many think, TT has been active.

[Partial]

I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

Peppers is getting Franchised though, so that's irrelevant.

I'd gladly send a first and a second for Peppers

[Partial]

I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

Haynesworth>Peppers :P

I strongly dissagree. Peppers is far more athletic, blessed with better size, has freakishly long arms, and hasn't stomped on anyones face. Worst he has done is smoked some pot. Guy is much more of a Packer person, and most importantly of all, he has produced from day 1, being at a near all-pro level his rookie season.

[Lurker64]

I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

Peppers is getting Franchised though, so that's irrelevant.

I'd gladly send a first and a second for Peppers

But if Haynesworth and Peppers cost the same in terms of salary (tag number for DEs is $14m-$17m), and Peppers will cost you a first and a second and Haynesworth costs you no draft picks, that's a tough pill to swallow even if you greatly prefer the DE to the DT here. I mean, it's not like Haynesworth wouldn't help this team.

[RashanGary]

Haynesworth is more impressive to me. He's a brute. Peppers is good, but no better than Kampman IMO. I don't care how they performed 5 years ago. Rigth now I think Haynesworth is the best defender in the NFL.

[cpk1994]

The only way that Thompson would pick up any free agent, is if he doesn't have to get into a bidding war with any other team. Its not going to happen.

How quickly you forget Lavar Arrington and Adam Viniteri. TT had the largest offer on the table over other teams for both of them, but Arrington wanted to stay in the division, and Viniteri wanted an indoor team. Your statement is patently false.

[Lurker64]

How quickly you forget Lavar Arrington and Adam Viniteri. TT had the largest offer on the table over other teams for both of them, but Arrington wanted to stay in the division, and Viniteri wanted an indoor team. Your statement is patently false.

Not only that but it turns out that both decisions worked out for Thompson. Arrington had a degenerative knee condition that took him out of the league right after he signed that contract, and Vinatierri has been nothing special in Indianapolis.

Not that Thompson is a genius for anticipating these things, but sometimes it's the case that "not signing a guy" is the best decision.

[Partial]

I'd take Peppers over Haynesworth 8 days a week.

Peppers is getting Franchised though, so that's irrelevant.

I'd gladly send a first and a second for Peppers

But if Haynesworth and Peppers cost the same in terms of salary (tag number for DEs is $14m-$17m), and Peppers will cost you a first and a second and Haynesworth costs you no draft picks, that's a tough pill to swallow even if you greatly prefer the DE to the DT here. I mean, it's not like Haynesworth wouldn't help this team.

Why does everyone assume he isn't going to be franchised? Titans GM isn't that dumb.