Al's Paraniod

[wist43]

I use Walker b/c I would have handled the whole thing different from the start... I would have signed him b/4 the start of that season, he's happy, and everything probably turns out different.

The fact that he flamed out after getting injured and leaving isn't the point. I would have signed him. He was displaying big time upside, with big play capability... however, the only thing you can't account for is character, and to the point where his discontent began to kick in, he had been a pretty good citizen. Of course, he went the punk route after he left... maybe the Packer organization saw that in his makeup, and that's why they let him go, but based solely on talent and production to that point, he was a no-brainer resigning.

[wist43]

TT is all about young guys - his young guys - and always will be.

It's a young man's game.

I'm 46 years old, and 120 lbs lighter than Harrell... can still kick his ass

[Partial]

Again, Favre is playing ok, but he probably only has this season left. And even if he doesn't, did we really want to go thru that again next season?? Wahle was so good he got cut after he left us. Walker flat out has stank since he be gone. Williams has been a 6 million dollar disappointment in cleveland. (although I would be interested in what WE offered him midway thru last season to see if TT tried to keep him). He was an inside pass rush specialist that got big time starter money....not much we could do , but recover a 2nd for him.

Woodson, Pickett, Chillar, Kuhn, Bigby, Tramon Williams, and Ruvell Martin ALL worked out pretty well, and only Woodson cost an arm and a leg. TT is not in the habit of handing Joe Johnson HUGE money....thank GOD!!

Favre is playing at an MVP level the past few weeks since settling into the offense. He has had one year left for years. What evidence is there to think he'd be playing poorly next year? None. We shouldn't have gone through it in the first place if we had any other GM in the league. I've never heard of a GM demanding a decision by the end of February.

Wahle got cut after 3 solid years as a cap casualty. He played great his first year, despite readjusting to a new scheme.

Walker had a legendary year in Denver, then injuries caught up with him. Saying he stunk is a severe misjudgment.

You can say that Williams has been a 6 million dollar dissapointment.. but our DL has performance has been horrendous at best this year. They don't have any depth, can't rush the passer or stop the run, etc. While I thought getting rid of Corey Williams was a good deal at the time, I am not paid to make these decisions. Clearly TT had an error in judgement in letting go Williams.

I don't get your point on the other guys. What is it?

[sheepshead]

Wahle, Favre, Williams, Walker... off the top of my head.

It isn't even so much guys he doesn't keep on the roster... the guys he has signed out of FA came on board b/c there was pretty much no interest in them elsewhere in the league. The fact that Woodson and Pickett worked out is immaterial.

TT is all about young guys - his young guys - and always will be.

I dont regret any of those guys leaving.

[DonHutson]

Wahle got cut after 3 solid years as a cap casualty. He played great his first year, despite readjusting to a new scheme.

Walker had a legendary year in Denver, then injuries caught up with him. Saying he stunk is a severe misjudgment.

So if anything, Ted got rid of these guys one year too soon. I'd prefer that to giving them 4 or 5 year contracts to capture that one good year.

He got rid of Green and Rivera at the right time. We'll see about Favre, but that scenario was about more than on the field stuff anyway.

He probably held on to Franks and Henderson too long. KGB also. We might be adding Clifton to that list.

Sharper and Longwell continued to be productive for several years, but Longwell was fairly easily replaced and Sharper has continued his pattern of several blown tackles and bad angles for every big play he makes. It got him in the Pro Bowl another time or two, but I don't miss him.

So he kept some and he got rid of many, but I would argue most of those moves worked out. It's fairly predeictable that a guy is going to decline in his 30's. If he's going to make a mistake, I'd prefer he gets rid of a guy too early.

As for Walker, injuries are not his only problem. No maturity and no brains made Javon a lost cause.

[3irty1]

Javon Walker was a pain in the ass. He really can't be lumped in with the other guys who were willing and able to play.

[sheepshead]

Again, Favre is playing ok, but he probably only has this season left. And even if he doesn't, did we really want to go thru that again next season?? Wahle was so good he got cut after he left us. Walker flat out has stank since he be gone. Williams has been a 6 million dollar disappointment in cleveland. (although I would be interested in what WE offered him midway thru last season to see if TT tried to keep him). He was an inside pass rush specialist that got big time starter money....not much we could do , but recover a 2nd for him.

Woodson, Pickett, Chillar, Kuhn, Bigby, Tramon Williams, and Ruvell Martin ALL worked out pretty well, and only Woodson cost an arm and a leg. TT is not in the habit of handing Joe Johnson HUGE money....thank GOD!!

Favre is playing at an MVP level the past few weeks since settling into the offense. He has had one year left for years. What evidence is there to think he'd be playing poorly next year? None. We shouldn't have gone through it in the first place if we had any other GM in the league. I've never heard of a GM demanding a decision by the end of February.

Wahle got cut after 3 solid years as a cap casualty. He played great his first year, despite readjusting to a new scheme.

Walker had a legendary year in Denver, then injuries caught up with him. Saying he stunk is a severe misjudgment.

You can say that Williams has been a 6 million dollar dissapointment.. but our DL has performance has been horrendous at best this year. They don't have any depth, can't rush the passer or stop the run, etc. While I thought getting rid of Corey Williams was a good deal at the time, I am not paid to make these decisions. Clearly TT had an error in judgement in letting go Williams.

I don't get your point on the other guys. What is it?

Walker? Legendary? It was a nice season-look it up. jurys out on Williams.

[sheepshead]

here's some help:

* 1,497, Robert Brooks, 1995
* 1,461, Sterling Sharpe, 1992
* 1,424, Antonio Freeman, 1998
* 1,423, Sterling Sharpe, 1989
* 1,382, Javon Walker, 2004
* 1,361, James Lofton, 1984
* 1,300, James Lofton, 1983
* 1,295, Donald Driver, 2006
* 1,294, James Lofton, 1981
* 1,274, Sterling Sharpe, 1993
* 1,243, Antonio Freeman, 1997
* 1,231, Billy Howton, 1952
* 1,226, James Lofton, 1980
* 1,221, Donald Driver, 2005
* 1,211, Don Hutson, 1942
* 1,208, Donald Driver, 2004
* 1,188, Billy Howton, 1956
* 1,153, James Lofton, 1985
* 1,119, Sterling Sharpe, 1994
* 1,105, Sterling Sharpe, 1990
* 1,074, Antonio Freeman, 1999
* 1,064, Donald Driver, 2002
* 1,051, Bill Schroeder, 1999
* 1,048, Donald Driver, 2007
* 1,010, Robert Brooks, 1997

[3irty1]

here's some help:

* 1,497, Robert Brooks, 1995
* 1,461, Sterling Sharpe, 1992
* 1,424, Antonio Freeman, 1998
* 1,423, Sterling Sharpe, 1989
* 1,382, Javon Walker, 2004
* 1,361, James Lofton, 1984
* 1,300, James Lofton, 1983
* 1,295, Donald Driver, 2006
* 1,294, James Lofton, 1981
* 1,274, Sterling Sharpe, 1993
* 1,243, Antonio Freeman, 1997
* 1,231, Billy Howton, 1952
* 1,226, James Lofton, 1980
* 1,221, Donald Driver, 2005
* 1,211, Don Hutson, 1942
* 1,208, Donald Driver, 2004
* 1,188, Billy Howton, 1956
* 1,153, James Lofton, 1985
* 1,119, Sterling Sharpe, 1994
* 1,105, Sterling Sharpe, 1990
* 1,074, Antonio Freeman, 1999
* 1,064, Donald Driver, 2002
* 1,051, Bill Schroeder, 1999
* 1,048, Donald Driver, 2007
* 1,010, Robert Brooks, 1997

He said in Denver. 1084 Yards and 8 TDs.

[Zool]

here's some help:

* 1,497, Robert Brooks, 1995
* 1,461, Sterling Sharpe, 1992
* 1,424, Antonio Freeman, 1998
* 1,423, Sterling Sharpe, 1989
* 1,382, Javon Walker, 2004
* 1,361, James Lofton, 1984
* 1,300, James Lofton, 1983
* 1,295, Donald Driver, 2006
* 1,294, James Lofton, 1981
* 1,274, Sterling Sharpe, 1993
* 1,243, Antonio Freeman, 1997
* 1,231, Billy Howton, 1952
* 1,226, James Lofton, 1980
* 1,221, Donald Driver, 2005
* 1,211, Don Hutson, 1942
* 1,208, Donald Driver, 2004
* 1,188, Billy Howton, 1956
* 1,153, James Lofton, 1985
* 1,119, Sterling Sharpe, 1994
* 1,105, Sterling Sharpe, 1990
* 1,074, Antonio Freeman, 1999
* 1,064, Donald Driver, 2002
* 1,051, Bill Schroeder, 1999
* 1,048, Donald Driver, 2007
* 1,010, Robert Brooks, 1997

He said in Denver. 1084 Yards and 8 TDs.

In that case, there's been about 6000 legendary seasons by WR's in the last 20 years.

[bobblehead]

Again, Favre is playing ok, but he probably only has this season left. And even if he doesn't, did we really want to go thru that again next season?? Wahle was so good he got cut after he left us. Walker flat out has stank since he be gone. Williams has been a 6 million dollar disappointment in cleveland. (although I would be interested in what WE offered him midway thru last season to see if TT tried to keep him). He was an inside pass rush specialist that got big time starter money....not much we could do , but recover a 2nd for him.

Woodson, Pickett, Chillar, Kuhn, Bigby, Tramon Williams, and Ruvell Martin ALL worked out pretty well, and only Woodson cost an arm and a leg. TT is not in the habit of handing Joe Johnson HUGE money....thank GOD!!

Favre is playing at an MVP level the past few weeks since settling into the offense. He has had one year left for years. What evidence is there to think he'd be playing poorly next year? None.

you're right, my bad....no evidence at all to suggest a 40 year old might drop off a bit, WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!!!

[bobblehead]

Again, Favre is playing ok, but he probably only has this season left. And even if he doesn't, did we really want to go thru that again next season?? Wahle was so good he got cut after he left us. Walker flat out has stank since he be gone. Williams has been a 6 million dollar disappointment in cleveland. (although I would be interested in what WE offered him midway thru last season to see if TT tried to keep him). He was an inside pass rush specialist that got big time starter money....not much we could do , but recover a 2nd for him.

Woodson, Pickett, Chillar, Kuhn, Bigby, Tramon Williams, and Ruvell Martin ALL worked out pretty well, and only Woodson cost an arm and a leg. TT is not in the habit of handing Joe Johnson HUGE money....thank GOD!!

Wahle got cut after 3 solid years as a cap casualty. He played great his first year, despite readjusting to a new scheme.

Seems to me that is EXACTLY what TT did, but I guess its ok if someone else does it, not TT.