Packer Defense(???)

[Patler]

5 TD drives by the Panthers:

219 yards, 21 plays, 10:22 seconds:

6 plays 42 yards 2:25 time
5 plays 55 yards 3:02
4 plays 17 yards 1:55
4 plays 50 yards 2:33
2 plays 55 yards 0:27

As bad as the kickoff coverage was, twice the defense was given a lead and offered virtually no resistance. The Panthers needed just 6 plays and three minutes to go 105 yards for two TDs.

[MJZiggy]

There was a defense there today? I thought one of the local high school teams put on Packer unis...

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'm fully on the fire Sanders train. It's just painful watching this team.

[Patler]

This was quite ridiculous.

[The Leaper]

We have utter incompetance in two aspects of the game...defense and special teams...and much of it can be tied back to the coaching staff's inability to get the young guys up to speed.

McCarthy better fix this in the offseason, or his neck will be a noose pretty quick.

[Noodle]

I think the poor ST play contributed to the poor play of the D. Especially on those 2 last TDs.

It's been a while since I played as a DB, but I remember it being much harder when the Offense started with a short field. I don't know if it's mo, or feeling like as a defensive player you can't just cut loose, or what, but I know this to be true.

[gbgary]

steve smith running free in a zone coverage is what's ridiculous.

[Patler]

I think the poor ST play contributed to the poor play of the D. Especially on those 2 last TDs.

It's been a while since I played as a DB, but I remember it being much harder when the Offense started with a short field. I don't know if it's mo, or feeling like as a defensive player you can't just cut loose, or what, but I know this to be true.

But to offer no resistance at all, just because the other team is at midfield?
The kickoff coverage was bad, but the defense was worse.

[Brohm]

Count me in on the fire Sanders bandwagon. Bump and run team playing zone, you would think we saw enough of that in the prvious games we tried this year and last to NOT DO THAT :O No run defense geez ><

[Noodle]

I feel your pain, Patler, but I disagree that they offered no resistance. Rather, Steve Smith made two sick catches. The coverage was pretty good, no one quit on the plays, Smith just did what he can do.

But if they're starting at their 20, he's making those catches at our 30. Because of the ST play, he's making those catches at the 5. Big difference.

[oregonpackfan]

I think the poor ST play contributed to the poor play of the D. Especially on those 2 last TDs.

It's been a while since I played as a DB, but I remember it being much harder when the Offense started with a short field. I don't know if it's mo, or feeling like as a defensive player you can't just cut loose, or what, but I know this to be true.

But to offer no resistance at all, just because the other team is at midfield?
The kickoff coverage was bad, but the defense was worse.

The kickoff coverage is horrible when your kicker has to make two touchdown saving tackles in the same game. Well, the first one he did not complete the tackle, be he slowed down the returner enough for a teammate to catch up and make the tackle.

I agree, however, the total defensive performance was very poor.

[Rastak]

That kick coverage just kills ya. The Vikings have had huge problems in the kick coverage phase of the game but have gotten slightly better the last couple weeks. It's disheartening to give up that kind of field position.

[Patler]

I feel your pain, Patler, but I disagree that they offered no resistance. Rather, Steve Smith made two sick catches. The coverage was pretty good, no one quit on the plays, Smith just did what he can do.

But if they're starting at their 20, he's making those catches at our 30. Because of the ST play, he's making those catches at the 5. Big difference.

But it was not just those two drives. It was every TD drive this week, a handful of plays, 50 yards, two minutes of time. TD. Last week, too. The defense has given up huge chunks of yardage. On the last two drives:
Where was the help on Smith?
Where was the pressure on Delhomme?

And it hasn't been just the last two weeks. It has happened with regularity all season long. The Packers get a lead and the defense gives it back before the offense even has a chance to sit down.

[gbgary]

Where was the help on Smith?
Where was the pressure on Delhomme?

no and it-was-there respectively. he should have been jammed at the line. had he, the pressure was there and would have got him. to me it's a failure of BS and his bs "mix-in some zone" scheme.

[denverYooper]

I feel your pain, Patler, but I disagree that they offered no resistance. Rather, Steve Smith made two sick catches. The coverage was pretty good, no one quit on the plays, Smith just did what he can do.

But if they're starting at their 20, he's making those catches at our 30. Because of the ST play, he's making those catches at the 5. Big difference.

But it was not just those two drives. It was every TD drive this week, a handful of plays, 50 yards, two minutes of time. TD. Last week, too. The defense has given up huge chunks of yardage. On the last two drives:
Where was the help on Smith?
Where was the pressure on Delhomme?

And it hasn't been just the last two weeks. It has happened with regularity all season long. The Packers get a lead and the defense gives it back before the offense even has a chance to sit down.

Yeah. It has happened too many times to say that it's been one guy having an outstanding game. Be it AD, Steve Smith, Drew Brees, etc.

I have no faith in the D coming up with a crucial stop.