Vote for Change!! Change you can believe in!!

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Vanilla Bob has gotta go!

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One requirement I would want out of a new coordinator would be to continue the press coverage. We've got three guys that are skilled at it.

[MJZiggy]

What if we were to do something crazy like mix up the coverages? (caveat--unless Steve Smith is on the field...)

[Joemailman]

Packers have lost 4 games this year in which they had a 4th quarter lead. They have to make a change at defense. If MM refuses to make the change, he will be putting his future as HC in jeopardy.

[gbgary]

yup. that's our strength and why they keep getting away from it is beyond me. playing man earlier in the game got us sacks and stops. giving it away like that again is totally unacceptable.

[TheCheese]

Alright, it sounds like we are all in favor of getting a new D coordinator, now here's the question.

Which Defense coordinator would you guys be in favor or bringing that's going to be available this off season?

[red]

its either TT's drafting of poor talent, or the d cord not doing anything with good talent

[Joemailman]

Alright, it sounds like we are all in favor of getting a new D coordinator, now here's the question.

Which Defense coordinator would you guys be in favor or bringing that's going to be available this off season?

When McCarthy first interviewed Winston Moss, Moss asked for the opportunity to be interviewed for the DC position, but McCarthy wanted to go with Sanders. Moss could get his chance this time.

[TheCheese]

Alright, it sounds like we are all in favor of getting a new D coordinator, now here's the question.

Which Defense coordinator would you guys be in favor or bringing that's going to be available this off season?

When McCarthy first interviewed Winston Moss, Moss asked for the opportunity to be interviewed for the DC position, but McCarthy wanted to go with Sanders. Moss could get his chance this time.

I was hoping we could get someone with an aggressive scheme who already has a proven track record.

[packers11]

Jim Johnson if Andy Reid gets fired and he doesn't get the HC job...

[Joemailman]

Well, I see Bob Sanders has his vote in.

[The Leaper]

its either TT's drafting of poor talent, or the d cord not doing anything with good talent

Or a combination of both.

I think a good bulk of blame should be directed at the coaching staff on defense. None of the young DL prospects have really stood up and become a consistent threat. Our LBs are good, but don't make plays. I'll give the secondary a pass...lots of injuries and the defensive playcalling leaves them exposed. WHen it is 3rd and 10+, you ALWAYS blitz IMO. Force the QB to get rid of the ball sooner than he wants to. Rushing 3 and dropping into zone is moronic.

[pbmax]

What if we were to do something crazy like mix up the coverages? (caveat--unless Steve Smith is on the field...)

That didn't work against the Saints either.

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This is more lopsided than this years election!!

The people have spoken.

Does anyone have TT and MMs email addresses?

[pbmax]

Actually, I voted for change, but I think the coaching has a specific, not widepread problem. Despite thousands of messages on secondary coverage, Schottenheimer and Washington have gotten very good play from some of the youngsters.

And the LB corp, while not lights out, might have maxed it's production. Hawk seems suited more to the middle but a move of Barnett will be tough after becoming entrenched. Poppinga is what he is, not a natural linebacker but has at least improved his liabilities to below average from awful.

The specific area is D Line. Corey Williams might have provided more pass rush from DT, but he was not an all around $8 million/yr player. Pickett and Jolly haven't been able to hold the center. Pickett is a strange case. He was never the immovable object Grady Jackson was, but he's slipped.

I haven't thought we had the pass rush talent necessary since before Williams left. And its clear now we can't stop the run. I put the blame on the GM. He needs to find more parts here.

But the onus is on the scheme to improvise with the lack of pass rush. I am not sure it can be done when your best blitzer is a backup LB or CB. Pass rush is hardest to find outside of a starting caliber QB. The scheme has to make it work. Even focusing on D Line doesn't mean the pass rush will improve. And except for QB, no position has wasted more money than pass rushing FAs.

One thing I do know, we won't be playing a 3-4 as a base defense unless they start from scratch.