MM is dumb

[wist43]

lol


you serious?

we had a good shot at getting the ball back with plenty of time.


and you cant even make the right thread title, pretty sure you're the idiot.

lol. Why don't you talk about the move instead of trying to attack me personally. And you must not have any fucking common sense if you dont see the mistake.


Plus I was talking on the phone and typing.

You me friend are a fucking bitch ass fag. Go suck MM dick......

How is it a mistke. If the defense could actually do their fucking job once, the strategy would have looke great. MM didn't make a mistake. The defense once agian failed.

MM has to call two both TO's to get the ball back right? Why not use it after 2nd and 3rd to see what they do on 2nd down first. If we stop them, the same amount of time would still be on the clock, but if they make it like they did, then there would be less time on the clock for them to work with.

I think we're arguing the same thing here... read my post - I think you meant 3rd and 4th down use the TO's. He did use on 2nd down, thereby ensuring time for Houston... bad TO.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

lol


you serious?

we had a good shot at getting the ball back with plenty of time.


and you cant even make the right thread title, pretty sure you're the idiot.

lol. Why don't you talk about the move instead of trying to attack me personally. And you must not have any fucking common sense if you dont see the mistake.


Plus I was talking on the phone and typing.

You me friend are a fucking bitch ass fag. Go suck MM dick......

How is it a mistke. If the defense could actually do their fucking job once, the strategy would have looke great. MM didn't make a mistake. The defense once agian failed.

MM has to call two both TO's to get the ball back right? Why not use it after 2nd and 3rd to see what they do on 2nd down first. If we stop them, the same amount of time would still be on the clock, but if they make it like they did, then there would be less time on the clock for them to work with.

I think we're arguing the same thing here... read my post - I think you meant 3rd and 4th down use the TO's. He did use on 2nd down, thereby ensuring time for Houston... bad TO.

yes my bad. We are arguing the same thing. This is pretty basic stuff. I can't believe your the only one who sees my point.

[cpk1994]

lol


you serious?

we had a good shot at getting the ball back with plenty of time.


and you cant even make the right thread title, pretty sure you're the idiot.

lol. Why don't you talk about the move instead of trying to attack me personally. And you must not have any fucking common sense if you dont see the mistake.


Plus I was talking on the phone and typing.

You me friend are a fucking bitch ass fag. Go suck MM dick......

How is it a mistke. If the defense could actually do their fucking job once, the strategy would have looke great. MM didn't make a mistake. The defense once agian failed.

MM has to call two both TO's to get the ball back right? Why not use it after 2nd and 3rd to see what they do on 2nd down first. If we stop them, the same amount of time would still be on the clock, but if they make it like they did, then there would be less time on the clock for them to work with.

Becuause MM expects the D to make the stop there. Becuase if they make the stop everythings fine. Don't forget that the clock stopped twice after that, one for Kampy's offsides and Collins's injury. THose were a hell of a lot more critical than how MM called his timeouts.

[wist43]

Didn't even have to think about it... as soon as I saw he had called the TO there, I knew it was a mistake. A no-brainer.

Can't believe nobody else sees it either... defending what he actually did. There is no excuse from making such a strategic blunder.

Hopefully, the papers will call it out... Strategy 101 - not rocket science.

[channtheman]

WHAT!? Did he really call a timeout for them!? Oh wow I'm about to feel sick now. I thought Houston called that timeout. We should have let them go into overtime and take our chances on a coin toss.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

lol


you serious?

we had a good shot at getting the ball back with plenty of time.


and you cant even make the right thread title, pretty sure you're the idiot.

lol. Why don't you talk about the move instead of trying to attack me personally. And you must not have any fucking common sense if you dont see the mistake.


Plus I was talking on the phone and typing.

You me friend are a fucking bitch ass fag. Go suck MM dick......

How is it a mistke. If the defense could actually do their fucking job once, the strategy would have looke great. MM didn't make a mistake. The defense once agian failed.

MM has to call two both TO's to get the ball back right? Why not use it after 2nd and 3rd to see what they do on 2nd down first. If we stop them, the same amount of time would still be on the clock, but if they make it like they did, then there would be less time on the clock for them to work with.

Becuause MM expects the D to make the stop there. Becuase if they make the stop everythings fine. Don't forget that the clock stopped twice after that, one for Kampy's offsides and Collins's injury. THose were a hell of a lot more critical than how MM called his timeouts.

But the same amount of time would still be on the clock if he called them after that second down play assuming we stop them. Why not protect yourself in the defense fails like they did.

[wist43]

lol


you serious?

we had a good shot at getting the ball back with plenty of time.


and you cant even make the right thread title, pretty sure you're the idiot.

lol. Why don't you talk about the move instead of trying to attack me personally. And you must not have any fucking common sense if you dont see the mistake.


Plus I was talking on the phone and typing.

You me friend are a fucking bitch ass fag. Go suck MM dick......

How is it a mistke. If the defense could actually do their fucking job once, the strategy would have looke great. MM didn't make a mistake. The defense once agian failed.

MM has to call two both TO's to get the ball back right? Why not use it after 2nd and 3rd to see what they do on 2nd down first. If we stop them, the same amount of time would still be on the clock, but if they make it like they did, then there would be less time on the clock for them to work with.

Becuause MM expects the D to make the stop there. Becuase if they make the stop everythings fine. Don't forget that the clock stopped twice after that, one for Kampy's offsides and Collins's injury. THose were a hell of a lot more critical than how MM called his timeouts.

Ur nuts... the only question in debate here is time left on the clock should they convert. By calling the TO at that point, MM essentially ensured that Houston would have time to drive the field if they converted.

The clock really didn't matter to MM - assuming a stop. It only mattered to Houston - whether if they converted, whether they would have enough time to get into FG range, which of course, they did.

How it played out, is exactly why you don't call the TO on 2nd down... it was a huge strategic blunder.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

lol


you serious?

we had a good shot at getting the ball back with plenty of time.


and you cant even make the right thread title, pretty sure you're the idiot.

lol. Why don't you talk about the move instead of trying to attack me personally. And you must not have any fucking common sense if you dont see the mistake.


Plus I was talking on the phone and typing.

You me friend are a fucking bitch ass fag. Go suck MM dick......

How is it a mistke. If the defense could actually do their fucking job once, the strategy would have looke great. MM didn't make a mistake. The defense once agian failed.

MM has to call two both TO's to get the ball back right? Why not use it after 2nd and 3rd to see what they do on 2nd down first. If we stop them, the same amount of time would still be on the clock, but if they make it like they did, then there would be less time on the clock for them to work with.

Becuause MM expects the D to make the stop there. Becuase if they make the stop everythings fine. Don't forget that the clock stopped twice after that, one for Kampy's offsides and Collins's injury. THose were a hell of a lot more critical than how MM called his timeouts.

Ur nuts... the only question in debate here is time left on the clock should they convert. By calling the TO at that point, MM essentially ensured that Houston would have time to drive the field if they converted.

The clock really didn't matter to MM - assuming a stop. It only mattered to Houston - whether if they converted, whether they would have enough time to get into FG range, which of course, they did.

How it played out, is exactly why you don't call the TO on 2nd down... it was a huge strategic blunder.

Good to see someone gets it. I expected more from MM. I thought this was a common sense move.

[wist43]

Wow...

You wouldn't think this was that tough a concept to wrap ones brain around, lol )

Can't believe the coaching staff hasn't prepared for just such scenario's... easy call to make. MM really blew this one, but it seems they really blow basic clock management scenario's fairly regularly.

All scenario's of clock management should already have been considered, and should be discussed as the clock is winding down. I didn't need to talk to anyone to make the call quite easily from my armchair... as I said, I thought it was a nobrainer.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: MM is dumb

Why did he call TO on 2-7? He should have waited to see what they do the 2nd down before calling a TO. He had to call two TO's anyways to get the ball back, why not use then after 2nd and 3rd down? That way they don't have much time left if they convert 2nd down.

Just dumb!

Agreed.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Arcilite, you off MM nuts yet? Why don't you next time actually think about the post before your dumb ass responds. You probably still don't see the mistake and you called me dumb. fuck off bitch.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Mike is going to look and the film and get it corrected, just like last week, and the week before, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that.

[BobDobbs]

He shouldn't have challenged that 2 point conversion either. That was a stupid timeout to lose. Ultimately didn't matter, but it could have.

[Jimx29]

Mike is going to look and the film and get it corrected, just like last week, and the week before, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that.

Started saying that shit right after the "train has left the station" bullshit

[ThunderDan]

They had 2 timeouts left... you call the TO on 3rd down - assuming a stop, and clock continuing to run. Force them to snap the ball... time left should be about 1:10 or so.

It's 3rd down and whatever, assume a stop on 3rd, call the other time out, they're punting from their end zone, you have no TO's, but you have the ball at about midfield, with a minute on the clock.

If they convert on 2nd or 3rd, with the clock having ticked down, they are still on about their 20 or so, but with only about 1:00 or so remaining.

That's why you let the clock run on 2nd down... man alive... have to explain this rudimentary stuff???

The alternative scenerio... we saw played out.

The call by MM was correct. The whole idea is to make the opponents have to throw on 3rd down and than an incompletion stops the clock. We would have gotten the ball back with 1:30 on the clock at midfield.

The issue is the D and the D only. From the 2 yard line Houston's playbook is probably reduced to 8 plays at most. We couldn't stop them. We couldn't stop them all day. If it wasn't for the turnovers this is another blowout like NO.